pacquiao is still p4p #1

[mnmc10]

exactly my point, how can pac beat the #1 if he retired? pbf retired so pac bumped up one place up. now pbf vacated that spot so he is technically is not a boxer anymore.

now that he has come back he needs to beat the present #1 to regain his spot.

unless pac decides to quit boxing or dies.

[panthro]

exactly my point, how can pac beat the #1 if he retired? pbf retired so pac bumped up one place up. now pbf vacated that spot so he is technically is not a boxer anymore.

now that he has come back he needs to beat the present #1 to regain his spot.

unless pac decides to quit boxing or dies.

I disagree,
What if they were in separate weight classes i.e. the two best boxers in the world, one was in heavy weight and one was in fly weight? They wouldn’t be able to fight each to decided whos p4p best. That’s why its called p4p and not 147 pound or whatever weight and that’s why there is not p4p belt to be won. its just an assessment of boxing skill, ability and performance. So technically If a person was p4p best when he left and still shows he is the most skilled and able boxer then they can take it right back unless of course you feel that someone else has improved to a level higher then that….So it’s kind of a iffy thing this p4p title but I personally feel floyd takes that spot back after his 2 return performances.
BTW a lot of people have welcomed me to this forum. Thank you, I find this forum very refreshing.
I found this place during the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao debacle. A few of the forums I tried were just ridiculous with nonsense rantings, but Saddo boxing had some level headed people speaking sensibly. So here I am. Thanks All.

[NuthaPug]

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I found this place during the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao debacle. A few of the forums I tried were just ridiculous with nonsense rantings, but Saddo boxing had some level headed people speaking sensibly. So here I am. Thanks All.

You're quite right. There's plenty of nonsense here but lots of expertise and real knowledge to temper and balance it. I find it a pleasure, and learn a lot, when I read the forums here at Saddo.

You came to the right place, and welcome to you.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

exactly my point, how can pac beat the #1 if he retired? pbf retired so pac bumped up one place up. now pbf vacated that spot so he is technically is not a boxer anymore.

now that he has come back he needs to beat the present #1 to regain his spot.

unless pac decides to quit boxing or dies.

I disagree,
What if they were in separate weight classes i.e. the two best boxers in the world, one was in heavy weight and one was in fly weight? They wouldn’t be able to fight each to decided whos p4p best. That’s why its called p4p and not 147 pound or whatever weight and that’s why there is not p4p belt to be won. its just an assessment of boxing skill, ability and performance. So technically If a person was p4p best when he left and still shows he is the most skilled and able boxer then they can take it right back unless of course you feel that someone else has improved to a level higher then that….So it’s kind of a iffy thing this p4p title but I personally feel floyd takes that spot back after his 2 return performances.
BTW a lot of people have welcomed me to this forum. Thank you, I find this forum very refreshing.
I found this place during the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao debacle. A few of the forums I tried were just ridiculous with nonsense rantings, but Saddo boxing had some level headed people speaking sensibly. So here I am. Thanks All.

But Pacquiao and Mayweather are not in separate weight classes and they are able to fight each other.

If Manny's opponents were horrible (like Donaire's opponents after Darchinyan), then I agree that Floyd can get back the P4P#1 position without fighting Manny. But given that both of them have an excellent resume in their last few fights (or overrated opponents depending on how you look at it), then in order to be THE MAN you have to beat THE MAN.

Since there is really a question as to who is the better of the two, it's up to the #2 to prove that he is better than #1 by going through him.

[gest12645]

How is this Pongwalek...... in the top 10 ?? thats crazy