People who use the Race Card and Race Baiters

[Snakey]

One thing I hate is when black people are racist towards white people and think its ok due to our ancestors treating them like shit....but one white guy says the N word and all hell is about to break loose. A very big double standard. Thats why I dont mind watching Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock coz they really bag the shit out of anyone and everyone. Some people just think they are a losing an argument and throw in the race card for the sake of it.

[Dizaster]

One thing I hate is when black people are racist towards white people and think its ok due to our ancestors treating them like shit....but one white guy says the N word and all hell is about to break loose. A very big double standard. Thats why I dont mind watching Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock coz they really bag the shit out of anyone and everyone. Some people just think they are a losing an argument and throw in the race card for the sake of it.

Yeah it's a very very very very big comedy card in tonnes of movies and tv shows... The white guy will come and the tough black guy will be like, "What the f'k you want white boy"....

If it was "What the f'k you want black boy" the tv show would have that episode banned...

Like, I think racism isn't about this sort of language anymore.... The real racism is the people who actually really dislike other people just because of their colour...
The time has to come sometime when we can refer to people as whatever colour and it can be relevant to a discussion, without it having to mean someone is being racist.... When you can start laughing at yourself, you know you have evolved... Some people say, when people start believing racist jokes are okay, then that means things are REALLLLLLLY bad... Personally I think when everyone starts beleiveing racist jokes are okay, it means that we've gone above the nasty hatred or whatever was behind that stuff 40, 50 years ago....

I think it's really crazy the amount of offence people take to things when they are meant as a joke and there was never any bad intent behind what was said... I think that just keeps issues raw long long after they need to be...

I say, it's all about the intent, and your intended audience, and what sort of reaction you are trying to get...

A white guy who is very much good friends with a black person could make racist jokes and they could have a good laugh.. Because they know their audience, and they only have good intentions...

I think we're moving past the days of being like "OMG you made a black joke, you're racist"... But I think still just common sense is needed..... And people need to learn to laugh at themselves and not take shit to seriously, especially when people mean no harm...

[HattonTheHammer]

One thing I hate is when black people are racist towards white people and think its ok due to our ancestors treating them like shit....but one white guy says the N word and all hell is about to break loose. A very big double standard. Thats why I dont mind watching Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock coz they really bag the shit out of anyone and everyone. Some people just think they are a losing an argument and throw in the race card for the sake of it.

America just has such double standards though

If Chris Rock is allowed to spend 30minutes of a show bagging "crackers" then surely when the shoes on the other foot and a white comedian gives some back in return their shouldnt be any uproar??

Britain has had its "racist" comics aplenty over the years from mike reid to chubby brown. But when you actually get down to the nitty gritty its a joke no more, no less

[piye]

I can agree with some of what you are saying but I have noticed a lot of people now act like racism doesn't exist at all, but it does. You also find a lot of people suffering with victim syndrome. I mean On some occasions the racism is blatant but still denied, the post on here about the BNP where the politician ask some Asian lads which one of you is a robber people ignored that and instead commented on the Asian lad spitting. Racism is worse than spit!

[Fenster]

I can agree with some of what you are saying but I have noticed a lot of people now act like racism doesn't exist at all, but it does. You also find a lot of people suffering with victim syndrome. I mean On some occasions the racism is blatant but still denied, the post on here about the BNP where the politician ask some Asian lads which one of you is a robber people ignored that and instead commented on the Asian lad spitting. Racism is worse than spit!

He never called them robbers.

Racism is worse than a spit in a certain context.

Is spitting in someones face worse than calling them a name? I don't think so.

[Gandalf]

One thing I hate is when black people are racist towards white people and think its ok due to our ancestors treating them like shit....but one white guy says the N word and all hell is about to break loose. A very big double standard. Thats why I dont mind watching Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock coz they really bag the shit out of anyone and everyone. Some people just think they are a losing an argument and throw in the race card for the sake of it.

America just has such double standards though

If Chris Rock is allowed to spend 30minutes of a show bagging "crackers" then surely when the shoes on the other foot and a white comedian gives some back in return their shouldnt be any uproar??

Britain has had its "racist" comics aplenty over the years from mike reid to chubby brown. But when you actually get down to the nitty gritty its a joke no more, no less

I agree with that. In comedy I think anything should be allowed, no matter how distasteful it might be. There shouldn't be double standards though, if a black man can mock white people then white people should be free to mock black people. As long as it isn't being said hatefully then I don't see the problem.

People who play the race card on boxing forums are a sad bunch though. I've been accused of being racist twice all because I dislike Amir Khan. It's nonsense, I never raise the issue of race so I have no idea how it gets construed as racism. That guy who was baiting Lyle is a silly so and so. What is he hoping to achieve by posting like that?

[Youngblood]

It's a 2 way street. We need to look both ways before crossing.

[Andre]

It's a 2 way street. We need to look both ways before crossing.

I had a race car, d .

[ono]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

[HattonTheHammer]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

Is that pretty much you saying that day to day racism doesnt actually occur and that the only time someone can here something which can be classed as racism is at a comedy club??

If so you`ve obviously never been to a pub in your entire life

[generalbulldog]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

If I'm not mistaken you've called me and other people on this site as racist for not liking Amir Khan and then proceeded to used Youtube comments to illustrate that people who do not like Khan is racist. And you also called me a racist because I believed the old man on the bus was within his rights to defend himself against someone attacking him in the Epic beard man thread.

that's how you play the race card people.

[Kev]

One thing I hate is when black people are racist towards white people and think its ok due to our ancestors treating them like shit....but one white guy says the N word and all hell is about to break loose. A very big double standard. Thats why I dont mind watching Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock coz they really bag the shit out of anyone and everyone. Some people just think they are a losing an argument and throw in the race card for the sake of it.

It is a big difference though mate. Everybody and every nation has a past and a history and some things can be said by some and not others.

If a black American comedian has a standup routine and makes some jokes about jewish sterotype it's probably pretty funny, but let a German comedian try that and it will be viewed differently.

Your little child sitting on Santa's knee with him going 'ho ho ho and what would you like for Christmas little child?' is a not nearly as sinister as imagining the same scenario but with Gary Glitter instead of Santa.

The stigma and shame of racial subjegation is a cross that us white's bear, the black's were never guilty of enslaving white folk and selling them as cattle and so words don't carry the same menace when they same them.