US students kicked of school campus for wearing US flag t-shirts

[Kev]

The highest court in the land says you can make political statements at school as long as it doesn't interfere with other students learning. If there were Mexican kids out there that felt targeted by these kid's shirts (because even those arguing against the principal admit that these douches were targeting kids) then the principal was well within his rights.

You guys take civil liberties and run with it, how the hell would you feel if your son went to this school and the principal was more worried about not stepping on a couple bigot's toes then he was making sure everyone is getting out of school what they actually went there for? Lyle I expected to have the type of reply he did but by typing Stinko De Mayo he pretty much made my point for me. If some Mexican called July 4th something like that he would be up in arms talking about how white people are modern day black slaves.

I never thought it would happen but Amat, Ono and Jazmerkin are those on this board whose opinions I respect the most these days.

[amat]

Lol Bilbo I think it's just because we are advocates of common sense. When the principal made his decision it was one of common sense, politics just weren't involved most likely.

Common sense always falls in the center and on this issue, you have people stuck on the right or left wings both arguing for the same point. The leftists would rather see the world crash and burn before they would stand to watch someone's perceived civil liberties violated in any shape or fashion. People own the right can't believe what the world is coming to when someone wears an American flag in America and has to take it off.

The more politics creep in, the more context is lost and the more common sense takes a backseat.

[Oggie]

It would have been interesting to have seen exactly what the situation was when the principal decided to take the measures he did.

Here is a thought that I'm a bit split on;
If the principal took the measures without a reason other than the fact that those kids were wearing the shirts, is he not encouraging the division between the two sets of pupils?
I'm just trying to imagine the scenario on the next school day as the kids arrive. If there was no trouble in sight, should he have just let it be instead of bringing it into the spotlight and almost providing a reason for increased animosity?
Would be interesting to hear thoughts on this...

Of course, just to be clear, if trouble was brewing and it was affecting the students, then (much like all protests) the principal was 100% right to take action in the interest of student/school safety in my opinion.

[Kev]

It would have been interesting to have seen exactly what the situation was when the principal decided to take the measures he did.

Here is a thought that I'm a bit split on;
If the principal took the measures without a reason other than the fact that those kids were wearing the shirts, is he not encouraging the division between the two sets of pupils?
I'm just trying to imagine the scenario on the next school day as the kids arrive. If there was no trouble in sight, should he have just let it be instead of bringing it into the spotlight and almost providing a reason for increased animosity?
Would be interesting to hear thoughts on this...

Of course, just to be clear, if trouble was brewing and it was affecting the students, then (much like all protests) the principal was 100% right to take action in the interest of student/school safety in my opinion.

Thing is I guess the principle knows his students. He probably knows that kids, knows they are a bit twatish and knew exactly what they were up to .

I watched their interviews after and they looked like dicks to me, one kid innocently saying 'he couldn't take his shirt off because it would disrespecting the American flag', they were obviously just trying to make some kind of political statement.

And their parents too, who are now sueing. They will no doubt try to rally support by reminding America of all the brave troops who have died defending the right of all Americans to proudly wear their flags.

[Oggie]

It would have been interesting to have seen exactly what the situation was when the principal decided to take the measures he did.

Here is a thought that I'm a bit split on;
If the principal took the measures without a reason other than the fact that those kids were wearing the shirts, is he not encouraging the division between the two sets of pupils?
I'm just trying to imagine the scenario on the next school day as the kids arrive. If there was no trouble in sight, should he have just let it be instead of bringing it into the spotlight and almost providing a reason for increased animosity?
Would be interesting to hear thoughts on this...

Of course, just to be clear, if trouble was brewing and it was affecting the students, then (much like all protests) the principal was 100% right to take action in the interest of student/school safety in my opinion.

Thing is I guess the principle knows his students. He probably knows that kids, knows they are a bit twatish and knew exactly what they were up to .

I watched their interviews after and they looked like dicks to me, one kid innocently saying 'he couldn't take his shirt off because it would disrespecting the American flag', they were obviously just trying to make some kind of political statement.

And their parents too, who are now sueing. They will no doubt try to rally support by reminding America of all the brave troops who have died defending the right of all Americans to proudly wear their flags.

I haven't seen the interview with the kids, but it does appear they were looking for trouble by being overly patriotic on the day. Anyway, I guess it can be debated over and over, but it is quite hard to assess the situation without being there first hand.
As for the parents suing, they are just needlessly making a big deal about something unnecessary and like the point I made earlier, they are just encouraging the animosity between the groups of students in question.