Khan v Malignaggi weigh in kicks off!!

[JazMerkin]

Good read is that. Sounds like madness. Not sure where the reporter is going towards the end of it though.

I think what he was getting at, with a group of guys looking thuggish sporting Pakistan flags and other militant stuff whatever that means. People could jump to conclusions in a city and jump them or something. People are a bit on edge in NYC right now

I just don't think he needed to go there. It was irrelevant to the weigh-in. Plus the Americans should be ok with the Khan army clothing. Afterall, it is just that - clothing. If it troubles them, it makes the Cinco de Mayo/Us Flag t-shirt outrage a little hypocritical.

haha it is funny how when the other side does it, the dreaded minorities, all of a sudden national flags take on a sinister and intimidating character. Poor America was in fear it seems, terrorised by these evil men wearing their milataristic, hate inspired tshirts. Di bella nearly pulls out his fighter over the threat.

I think they needed that school principle there. He wouldn't have let Khan's army into the building dressed in that garb and they would have not been there to kick off :-)

Haha my sentiments exactly mate.

That makes you a hypocrite as well, no? Wasn't the writer thinking along the same lines as the teacher?

I think the writer is the hypocrite. Look at the ways the two stories are interperated. When the American schoolkids wore their flag inspired clothes on Cinda di Mayo day they are just happy go lucky, proudly patriotic, troop supporting, good clean American kids, the kind of loveable youths that help grandma across the road and do odd jobs to help their community.

But when Khan's team wear their Pakistani colours they are making an intimidating, terrorist supporting, American hating battle cry.

I hate the way the media interperate things for their own ends.

Look at the Wooten Basset march.

When us Brits mourned the deaths of British soldiers in Wooten Basset,it was all about respect for those brave men, solidarity with their familys and a show of unity against war and aggression.

But when the Muslims wanted to march through the same town to mourn the deaths (many times more as well) of their Arab bretheren killed in Afgansistan and Iraq they were ' evil' ,'fundamentalist', 'radical ', 'hate driven' so much so that a new law was rushed through to prevent them exercising their freedom of speech and incidently was supported by virtually the whole country.

The media and public bias in terms of interperating the behaviours of both sides is frankly staggering imo.

Apples and oranges dude. First off, those American kids were in their own country. They didn't go to Pakistan or some other country and try to rile things up. I don't think DiBella or anybody else gave a damn what Khans people were wearing, they had a problem with them all bum-rushing the stage like a bunch of thugs. And the writer was simply pointing out that the citizens of NY are on edge right now, and the wrong person might not be too keen on seeing some Pakistani militant clothing and the some Muslims acting like thugs.

You're right, it's been great how no Americans have gone over to Muslim countries, particularly South Asia and riled up any kind of ill feeling in those places. They've really demonstrated such resolve in staying out of the business of the Islamic world and... wait... I'll get my coat

Also, I'm curious on your take on Pakistani militant clothing, are their insurgents decked out in black hoodies??

[Jesse James]

Good read is that. Sounds like madness. Not sure where the reporter is going towards the end of it though.

I think what he was getting at, with a group of guys looking thuggish sporting Pakistan flags and other militant stuff whatever that means. People could jump to conclusions in a city and jump them or something. People are a bit on edge in NYC right now

I just don't think he needed to go there. It was irrelevant to the weigh-in. Plus the Americans should be ok with the Khan army clothing. Afterall, it is just that - clothing. If it troubles them, it makes the Cinco de Mayo/Us Flag t-shirt outrage a little hypocritical.

haha it is funny how when the other side does it, the dreaded minorities, all of a sudden national flags take on a sinister and intimidating character. Poor America was in fear it seems, terrorised by these evil men wearing their milataristic, hate inspired tshirts. Di bella nearly pulls out his fighter over the threat.

I think they needed that school principle there. He wouldn't have let Khan's army into the building dressed in that garb and they would have not been there to kick off :-)

Haha my sentiments exactly mate.

That makes you a hypocrite as well, no? Wasn't the writer thinking along the same lines as the teacher?

I think the writer is the hypocrite. Look at the ways the two stories are interperated. When the American schoolkids wore their flag inspired clothes on Cinda di Mayo day they are just happy go lucky, proudly patriotic, troop supporting, good clean American kids, the kind of loveable youths that help grandma across the road and do odd jobs to help their community.

But when Khan's team wear their Pakistani colours they are making an intimidating, terrorist supporting, American hating battle cry.

I hate the way the media interperate things for their own ends.

Look at the Wooten Basset march.

When us Brits mourned the deaths of British soldiers in Wooten Basset,it was all about respect for those brave men, solidarity with their familys and a show of unity against war and aggression.

But when the Muslims wanted to march through the same town to mourn the deaths (many times more as well) of their Arab bretheren killed in Afgansistan and Iraq they were ' evil' ,'fundamentalist', 'radical ', 'hate driven' so much so that a new law was rushed through to prevent them exercising their freedom of speech and incidently was supported by virtually the whole country.

The media and public bias in terms of interperating the behaviours of both sides is frankly staggering imo.

Apples and oranges dude. First off, those American kids were in their own country. They didn't go to Pakistan or some other country and try to rile things up. I don't think DiBella or anybody else gave a damn what Khans people were wearing, they had a problem with them all bum-rushing the stage like a bunch of thugs. And the writer was simply pointing out that the citizens of NY are on edge right now, and the wrong person might not be too keen on seeing some Pakistani militant clothing and the some Muslims acting like thugs.

You're right, it's been great how no Americans have gone over to Muslim countries, particularly South Asia and riled up any kind of ill feeling in those places. They've really demonstrated such resolve in staying out of the business of the Islamic world and... wait... I'll get my coat

Also, I'm curious on your take on Pakistani militant clothing, are their insurgents decked out in black hoodies??

1. It doesn't matter what my take on the clothing is. I was just clarifying what the writer was saying because several people seemed to be confused. The writer wasn't encouraging any hostility towards "Khan's Army," he was simply saying it's not the smartest idea to go strolling through NY right now like that.

2. We ain't talking about militaries or governments, just individuals here. If an American boxer went over to Karachi with a bunch of thugs sporting American flags and acting all crazy, I would expect they wouldn't be greeted warmly.

[JazMerkin]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

[Jesse James]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

Haha! OK, that's actually pretty funny.

[Althugz]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

There you go - I was reading through this thread waiting for someone to actually make that important point and you made it.

Brits going abroad and disrespecting the place. Again, unfortunately it's a generalisation and I'm not talking about your average brit going abroad but something I see which is common place during certain trips abroad such as lads/girls holidays, boxing events and football events.

I see it too often - The Ricky Hatton/Mayweather fight, a couple of dudes standing behind us like fucking cowards while we're checking in to the MGM and making snyde comments to the woman behind the desk who was oriental. Comments like "Is your name ching chong china woman?" and stupid degrading shit like that. Then the boo'ing of the national anthem and then a fight kicks off in the crowd.

Same on lads holidays, taking the piss out of the locals language or just acting however they like in the streets throwing up and pissing..then they cry when the local Greeks beat the fuck out of them and they're "inhumane"

Then the Leeds fans go to Turkey and start wiping their ass with Turkish money and generally act rowdy in someone elses hometown -Then when someone gets stabbed, they start crying the Turks are "animals"

I can't help but feel if most Brits conducted themselves a little better at these kind of holidays or events, most of the problems would be avoided in the first place. I apologise in advance for generalising but this is just based on experiences of these type of holidays. I have met loads of nice Brits on "relaxing" holidays with the gf (usually people from out of London..much friendlier than the Londoners).

[Gandalf]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

There you go - I was reading through this thread waiting for someone to actually make that important point and you made it.

Brits going abroad and disrespecting the place. Again, unfortunately it's a generalisation and I'm not talking about your average brit going abroad but something I see which is common place during certain trips abroad such as lads/girls holidays, boxing events and football events.

I see it too often - The Ricky Hatton/Mayweather fight, a couple of dudes standing behind us like fucking cowards while we're checking in to the MGM and making snyde comments to the woman behind the desk who was oriental. Comments like "Is your name ching chong china woman?" and stupid degrading shit like that. Then the boo'ing of the national anthem and then a fight kicks off in the crowd.

Same on lads holidays, taking the piss out of the locals language or just acting however they like in the streets throwing up and pissing..then they cry when the local Greeks beat the fuck out of them and they're "inhumane"

Then the Leeds fans go to Turkey and start wiping their ass with Turkish money and generally act rowdy in someone elses hometown -Then when someone gets stabbed, they start crying the Turks are "animals"

I can't help but feel if most Brits conducted themselves a little better at these kind of holidays or events, most of the problems would be avoided in the first place. I apologise in advance for generalising but this is just based on experiences of these type of holidays. I have met loads of nice Brits on "relaxing" holidays with the gf (usually people from out of London..much friendlier than the Londoners).

Totally agree with all that. Personally I think that Britain would be a great country if you were just able to spontaneously wipe out about 80% of the inhabitants. There are some great people there, but by my reckoning they are fenced in as a small minority. That was my view from several years ago, by all accounts it has got worse.

[lawman]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

I agree. And I am very worried that they will be booing the Star Spangled Banner tonight.

[ono]

They behaved that way because they're Brits. Brits cannot go abroad without making complete pricks of themselves. The Hatton fans at the Hatton/Pacquiao weigh-in had their share of thugs who hurled racial abuse at Pac & Khan, as well as randomly abusing Shane Mosley. It's not a racial or religious thing, it's a national thing. 70% of Brits should be banned from having a passport that allows them to leave the country.

Also Khan shouldn't get the blame for his fans any more than Hatton, Pacquiao or Mayweather should for how their fans behave. It was clear the people who were actually with Khan were not encouraging it.

I agree. And I am very worried that they will be booing the Star Spangled Banner tonight.

There'll only be 50 of em. I doubt it.

[Kev]

Good read is that. Sounds like madness. Not sure where the reporter is going towards the end of it though.

I think what he was getting at, with a group of guys looking thuggish sporting Pakistan flags and other militant stuff whatever that means. People could jump to conclusions in a city and jump them or something. People are a bit on edge in NYC right now

I just don't think he needed to go there. It was irrelevant to the weigh-in. Plus the Americans should be ok with the Khan army clothing. Afterall, it is just that - clothing. If it troubles them, it makes the Cinco de Mayo/Us Flag t-shirt outrage a little hypocritical.

haha it is funny how when the other side does it, the dreaded minorities, all of a sudden national flags take on a sinister and intimidating character. Poor America was in fear it seems, terrorised by these evil men wearing their milataristic, hate inspired tshirts. Di bella nearly pulls out his fighter over the threat.

I think they needed that school principle there. He wouldn't have let Khan's army into the building dressed in that garb and they would have not been there to kick off :-)

Haha my sentiments exactly mate.

That makes you a hypocrite as well, no? Wasn't the writer thinking along the same lines as the teacher?

I think the writer is the hypocrite. Look at the ways the two stories are interperated. When the American schoolkids wore their flag inspired clothes on Cinda di Mayo day they are just happy go lucky, proudly patriotic, troop supporting, good clean American kids, the kind of loveable youths that help grandma across the road and do odd jobs to help their community.

But when Khan's team wear their Pakistani colours they are making an intimidating, terrorist supporting, American hating battle cry.

I hate the way the media interperate things for their own ends.

Look at the Wooten Basset march.

When us Brits mourned the deaths of British soldiers in Wooten Basset,it was all about respect for those brave men, solidarity with their familys and a show of unity against war and aggression.

But when the Muslims wanted to march through the same town to mourn the deaths (many times more as well) of their Arab bretheren killed in Afgansistan and Iraq they were ' evil' ,'fundamentalist', 'radical ', 'hate driven' so much so that a new law was rushed through to prevent them exercising their freedom of speech and incidently was supported by virtually the whole country.

The media and public bias in terms of interperating the behaviours of both sides is frankly staggering imo.

Apples and oranges dude. First off, those American kids were in their own country. They didn't go to Pakistan or some other country and try to rile things up. I don't think DiBella or anybody else gave a damn what Khans people were wearing, they had a problem with them all bum-rushing the stage like a bunch of thugs. And the writer was simply pointing out that the citizens of NY are on edge right now, and the wrong person might not be too keen on seeing some Pakistani militant clothing and the some Muslims acting like thugs.

You're right, it's been great how no Americans have gone over to Muslim countries, particularly South Asia and riled up any kind of ill feeling in those places. They've really demonstrated such resolve in staying out of the business of the Islamic world and... wait... I'll get my coat

Also, I'm curious on your take on Pakistani militant clothing, are their insurgents decked out in black hoodies??

1. It doesn't matter what my take on the clothing is. I was just clarifying what the writer was saying because several people seemed to be confused. The writer wasn't encouraging any hostility towards "Khan's Army," he was simply saying it's not the smartest idea to go strolling through NY right now like that.

2. We ain't talking about militaries or governments, just individuals here. If an American boxer went over to Karachi with a bunch of thugs sporting American flags and acting all crazy, I would expect they wouldn't be greeted warmly.

Ok I think it get it. Occupation by American troops, planes and shock and awe are acceptable as they are matters of politics. Individuals from these conquered nations wearing clothing adorned with the colours of their national flag on American soil is a sinister and aggressive act however. Yup that makes sense.

[Gandalf]

At the end of the day a simple stare down shouldn't have turned violent like that. I've just watched the video and that kind of behaviour is bang out of order. See, I've nothing against flags, but I do have a big problem with people turning to violence like that. Khan is the one surrounding himself with lots of out of control people, so I think he should be partially responsible for what happened on that stage.

[Kev]

At the end of the day a simple stare down shouldn't have turned violent like that. I've just watched the video and that kind of behaviour is bang out of order. See, I've nothing against flags, but I do have a big problem with people turning to violence like that. Khan is the one surrounding himself with lots of out of control people, so I think he should be partially responsible for what happened on that stage.

What about the throat slitting gestures by Paulie? Acceptable theatre?

[Gandalf]

At the end of the day a simple stare down shouldn't have turned violent like that. I've just watched the video and that kind of behaviour is bang out of order. See, I've nothing against flags, but I do have a big problem with people turning to violence like that. Khan is the one surrounding himself with lots of out of control people, so I think he should be partially responsible for what happened on that stage.

What about the throat slitting gestures by Paulie? Acceptable theatre?

A few words and gestures is the norm, isn't it?

But a bunch of outsiders jumping in and pandemonium breaking out? That's surely not part of the script. Don't get me wrong, Khan didn't do all that himself, but who were all those guys and what on earth were they trying to do? Not cool.

[Majesty]

At the end of the day a simple stare down shouldn't have turned violent like that. I've just watched the video and that kind of behaviour is bang out of order. See, I've nothing against flags, but I do have a big problem with people turning to violence like that. Khan is the one surrounding himself with lots of out of control people, so I think he should be partially responsible for what happened on that stage.

What about the throat slitting gestures by Paulie? Acceptable theatre?

Malignaggi always does the slitting gestures, even when his name is announced before a fight. But he wasn't the one doing the pushing and shoving.

[Jesse James]

Good read is that. Sounds like madness. Not sure where the reporter is going towards the end of it though.

I think what he was getting at, with a group of guys looking thuggish sporting Pakistan flags and other militant stuff whatever that means. People could jump to conclusions in a city and jump them or something. People are a bit on edge in NYC right now

I just don't think he needed to go there. It was irrelevant to the weigh-in. Plus the Americans should be ok with the Khan army clothing. Afterall, it is just that - clothing. If it troubles them, it makes the Cinco de Mayo/Us Flag t-shirt outrage a little hypocritical.

haha it is funny how when the other side does it, the dreaded minorities, all of a sudden national flags take on a sinister and intimidating character. Poor America was in fear it seems, terrorised by these evil men wearing their milataristic, hate inspired tshirts. Di bella nearly pulls out his fighter over the threat.

I think they needed that school principle there. He wouldn't have let Khan's army into the building dressed in that garb and they would have not been there to kick off :-)

Haha my sentiments exactly mate.

That makes you a hypocrite as well, no? Wasn't the writer thinking along the same lines as the teacher?

I think the writer is the hypocrite. Look at the ways the two stories are interperated. When the American schoolkids wore their flag inspired clothes on Cinda di Mayo day they are just happy go lucky, proudly patriotic, troop supporting, good clean American kids, the kind of loveable youths that help grandma across the road and do odd jobs to help their community.

But when Khan's team wear their Pakistani colours they are making an intimidating, terrorist supporting, American hating battle cry.

I hate the way the media interperate things for their own ends.

Look at the Wooten Basset march.

When us Brits mourned the deaths of British soldiers in Wooten Basset,it was all about respect for those brave men, solidarity with their familys and a show of unity against war and aggression.

But when the Muslims wanted to march through the same town to mourn the deaths (many times more as well) of their Arab bretheren killed in Afgansistan and Iraq they were ' evil' ,'fundamentalist', 'radical ', 'hate driven' so much so that a new law was rushed through to prevent them exercising their freedom of speech and incidently was supported by virtually the whole country.

The media and public bias in terms of interperating the behaviours of both sides is frankly staggering imo.

Apples and oranges dude. First off, those American kids were in their own country. They didn't go to Pakistan or some other country and try to rile things up. I don't think DiBella or anybody else gave a damn what Khans people were wearing, they had a problem with them all bum-rushing the stage like a bunch of thugs. And the writer was simply pointing out that the citizens of NY are on edge right now, and the wrong person might not be too keen on seeing some Pakistani militant clothing and the some Muslims acting like thugs.

You're right, it's been great how no Americans have gone over to Muslim countries, particularly South Asia and riled up any kind of ill feeling in those places. They've really demonstrated such resolve in staying out of the business of the Islamic world and... wait... I'll get my coat

Also, I'm curious on your take on Pakistani militant clothing, are their insurgents decked out in black hoodies??

1. It doesn't matter what my take on the clothing is. I was just clarifying what the writer was saying because several people seemed to be confused. The writer wasn't encouraging any hostility towards "Khan's Army," he was simply saying it's not the smartest idea to go strolling through NY right now like that.

2. We ain't talking about militaries or governments, just individuals here. If an American boxer went over to Karachi with a bunch of thugs sporting American flags and acting all crazy, I would expect they wouldn't be greeted warmly.

Ok I think it get it. Occupation by American troops, planes and shock and awe are acceptable as they are matters of politics. Individuals from these conquered nations wearing clothing adorned with the colours of their national flag on American soil is a sinister and aggressive act however. Yup that makes sense.

I didn't realize that either England or Pakistan were "conquered" nations. Surely not the equal status to the goold old USA, but conquered? But again, I don't see what troops, shock and awe, etc have to do with this. That's a completely seperate issue thta I may or may not agree with you on. But again again, I don't think there's anything sinister about "khans army" but some random pissed off New Yorker might...that's all he was saying.