If you could scan the pictures of those you can't identify it might help, there are a couple of knowledgeable boxing historians over here that might be able to help but if we have no ideas what do they look like, it's a bit more complicated. As for Teddy Atlas, he's a famous world known trainer and T.V analyst for boxing, a bit on the nutso side though.
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Yes scan the pictures and show us.
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