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    Default Re: Klitschko junior refuses random drug testing

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    This can only be a good thing, and Povetkin has every right to ask for this, it's him in there getting punched and most likely KO'd. He deserves to know its on an even playing field.

    In further PED news, I read the other day that the Andre Ward-Allan Green fight and most likely the Ward-Dirrell fight will be done with full USADA testing. Only reason there's little news is because all those guys were happy to do it.
    Full props to each of them if they have decided to go through with it. I've been critical of both Andre's for their fighting styles, but it's great to see other fighters taking note and taking it further. The commisions have a responsibility to take note and up their game. They are way behind the times at the moment. I'm sick of pricks like Roach saying "let's leave it up the commisions, they are doing a great job". They obviously aren't and changes are needed.

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    Every sanctioning bodies with the ugly fees they ask should include that type of Test for their belts, it would first give more credibility to boxing and second, support the idea of unification as the price for such tests would be then divided by the number of belts at the key and not solely paid fully by only one organization.
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    Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


    It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

    So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.
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    I hate all this drug talk shit. As if fights weren't already hard enough to make now every other fighter is going to follow Floyd's lead and demand proof his opponent is not on PED's.

    Hope Wlad sticks to his guns. If i was the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world I'd not be dicated to by some pudgy, pudding bowl haired inferior either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I hate all this drug talk shit. As if fights weren't already hard enough to make now every other fighter is going to follow Floyd's lead and demand proof his opponent is not on PED's.

    Hope Wlad sticks to his guns. If i was the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world I'd not be dicated to by some pudgy, pudding bowl haired inferior either.
    I think its nothing but good for the sport, when it goes back to a completely level playing field then we will see some competetive matches.

    Maybe Arum will try to sign Wlad up now, after all he has Margarito and Pacquiao

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    The FACT is Povetkin doesn't want to fight Wladimir, Teddy Atlas and the rest of Povetkin's managers and handlers know he isn't ready and that a loss to Wladimir may very well damage his career because then he has to work his way back up to the top again and let's face it, Teddy Atlas is a fair weather trainer he doesn't stick around with guys that lose even 1 fight.

    I doubt Wlad declined to do the testing because he's on anything, I mean this is the same guy who said "What's one more vaccination?" when he chose to fight Ruslan Chagaev.

    I imagine if the WBA title holder wanted random drug testing Wlad would do it in a heartbeat.

    Povetkin has been dragging his feet on this fight since like 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    The FACT is Povetkin doesn't want to fight Wladimir, Teddy Atlas and the rest of Povetkin's managers and handlers know he isn't ready and that a loss to Wladimir may very well damage his career because then he has to work his way back up to the top again and let's face it, Teddy Atlas is a fair weather trainer he doesn't stick around with guys that lose even 1 fight.

    I doubt Wlad declined to do the testing because he's on anything, I mean this is the same guy who said "What's one more vaccination?" when he chose to fight Ruslan Chagaev.

    I imagine if the WBA title holder wanted random drug testing Wlad would do it in a heartbeat.

    Povetkin has been dragging his feet on this fight since like 2008
    Wlad must either be shitting himself to face Povetkin or he knows he has no chance whithout medical help!

    Fuuck me!! It doesnt take a brain surgeon to see how guilty you look when you refuse tests after Manny the midget did

    Wlad has alaot of money and will have good handlers and they will now be running around like headless chickens wondering what the fuuck to do to not look any worse or like a cheater but its too late

    Make Wladamir take the tests or threaten him with Sanders again, he certail=nly wanted no part of a rematch and hid bahind his big brother, which makes you wonder what hes on, considering he retired because of injuries after rescheduling the Rahman bout god knows how many times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


    It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

    So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.
    I totally agree, but in this specific scenario Povetkin has been putting off challenging the Klitschko's for a while. He's been the mandatory for a long time and continues to fight "warm-ups."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


    It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

    So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.
    I totally agree, but in this specific scenario Povetkin has been putting off challenging the Klitschko's for a while. He's been the mandatory for a long time and continues to fight "warm-ups."
    yeah but of all the ways to duck out of a fight wouldn't this be the easiest one to get around by saying "yes, sure drug test me" then the fight happens doesn't it?
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    Default Re: Klitschko junior refuses random drug testing

    I think it is time to make olympic style drug testing mandatory in the pro ranks. I'm not accusing anyone of anything but if it was in place that every fighter had to take the random testing then we could be confident that the fighters are clean.

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    This is highly suspect. Surely the easy play is to accept the tests and put it back to Povetkin to back out again. This gives him a clear slate from any misinterpretations the public may have.

    I've said it before no professional athlete should ever turn down a drug test especially if their opponent is subject to the same testing.
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    I'm all in favour for letting all athletes take PEDs. There will be no suspiscion over who is doing them - as every will be - and some of the achievements we would see would be incredible. Imagine Usain Bolt on PEDs? He'd run the 100m faster than it would take me to blow my nose.

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    There is simply no excuse to refuse a random drugs test as a pro athlete. It would be like me refusing to allow a school any verification of my teaching qualifications. Why would I ever do that? If I know that I am qualified surely I would just go along with the request? After all, I'm sure I can get the job done and getting the job does mean a decent payday. It's silly to refuse that. Unless.... Povetkin is morally right to make the request, but Klit does also have the room to refuse. Boxing is a sport with too few scruples and not enough athletes willing to stand up and make point of things. He will probably never have to give blood in boxing...but he should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    There is simply no excuse to refuse a random drugs test as a pro athlete. It would be like me refusing to allow a school any verification of my teaching qualifications. Why would I ever do that? If I know that I am qualified surely I would just go along with the request? After all, I'm sure I can get the job done and getting the job does mean a decent payday. It's silly to refuse that. Unless.... Povetkin is morally right to make the request, but Klit does also have the room to refuse. Boxing is a sport with too few scruples and not enough athletes willing to stand up and make point of things. He will probably never have to give blood in boxing...but he should.
    I think the problem is that there is no uniform system of teaching. If the teachers at your school were subject to more rigorous standards than teachers at a school a block away, I could understand being upset about it. I'm sure 90% of boxers, just like 90% of all athletes, are using something and I think that they feel uneven testing would put them at a disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    This can only be a good thing, and Povetkin has every right to ask for this, it's him in there getting punched and most likely KO'd. He deserves to know its on an even playing field.

    In further PED news, I read the other day that the Andre Ward-Allan Green fight and most likely the Ward-Dirrell fight will be done with full USADA testing. Only reason there's little news is because all those guys were happy to do it.
    Full props to each of them if they have decided to go through with it. I've been critical of both Andre's for their fighting styles, but it's great to see other fighters taking note and taking it further. The commisions have a responsibility to take note and up their game. They are way behind the times at the moment. I'm sick of pricks like Roach saying "let's leave it up the commisions, they are doing a great job". They obviously aren't and changes are needed.

    Just shows that andre and allan arent cheats

    It still completely bemuses me as to why a clean boxer would under any circumstance refuse a test, i cant think of a single reason other than the clear fact they are infact doped up

    Hope david haye manages to catch on to this story, be interesting to hear what he has to say on this!
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