Fighters who's records do not tell the full story!!

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Soon as i read this thread 3 names came to mind, 1 for the wrong reason


Glen Johnson/Carlos Baldomir - both world quality fighters who have average records due to poor management early on in their careers and the fact theyve spent their entire careers at the very highest level of this sport

sven ottke - Absoloute fraud of a fighter, quite possibly the worst unbeaten record in the history of the sport. Mainly fought C/D level opponents and when he did actually get in with half decent challengers he had to rely on hometown refs, hometown judges etc etc to get some shocking decisions. Awful fighter

Carlos Baldomir has journeyman skills to go with his journeyman record.

[holmcall]

Erik Holland and David Lopez

[JonnyFolds]

DeMarcus Corley

Kassim Ouma (Well, sometimes he stinks like old cheese, but anybody see him give martirosyen hell last year?)

Humberto Soto

[Kirkland Laing]

Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. 41-0 record is identical to Floyd Mayweather Jr. I think we can agree the fighters are not

I wonder if Jr. will pull one just like Sr. Lots of critics would mention Sr. was no good, only faced taxi drivers, etc. But look at all he accomplished in the ring, regardless of staying a bit too long past his prime. No wonder Sr. is a Hall of Famer. Let's not forget Jr. has no amateur experience, no golden gloves, no olympic experience, nothing nada. He got his gloves laced and straight to the pros. So its pretty much an amateur with 40 fights facing the big boys. If he didn't have the Chavez last name I can imagine maybe people would see him differently.

Why has he got no amateur experience though? Is it because they knew he would have ended up with a pretty shitty amateur record and nobody would have been interested in him turning pro because of it?

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Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. 41-0 record is identical to Floyd Mayweather Jr. I think we can agree the fighters are not

I wonder if Jr. will pull one just like Sr. Lots of critics would mention Sr. was no good, only faced taxi drivers, etc. But look at all he accomplished in the ring, regardless of staying a bit too long past his prime. No wonder Sr. is a Hall of Famer. Let's not forget Jr. has no amateur experience, no golden gloves, no olympic experience, nothing nada. He got his gloves laced and straight to the pros. So its pretty much an amateur with 40 fights facing the big boys. If he didn't have the Chavez last name I can imagine maybe people would see him differently.

Why has he got no amateur experience though? Is it because they knew he would have ended up with a pretty shitty amateur record and nobody would have been interested in him turning pro because of it?

I think that's dead on. People talk about the amatuers as if they are merely a precursor to being a pro fighter, where you learn the ropes, when in reality had Jr. sought to garner any hype in the am's he would've had to face MUCH better fighters than the guy's he's been put in with so far. He just isn't a talent if you ask me, and this would have been pretty clear if he'd been competing in big tournaments against guys with real skills.