Where is this secret footage that shows Floyd being faster then Manny?

[Gandalf]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

[AdamGB]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

[Gandalf]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

[Gandalf]

That's not to say Manny's record is the bees knees with all the catchweights and opponents coming in off of losses, but I think it has been more impressive than Mayweather's on the whole.

[C-Lo]

I've said this from the get go. When you put this match-up in debate each side can argue why their fighter is better than the other or why one guy will dominate the other. Both men, if they EVER decide to fight each other will be in there with someone like they've never seen before.

Manny has never fought anyone as quick, as defensively sound, and as confident as Mayweather is. Floyd has never fought anyone as aggressive, with the same heart, and also as confident as Manny is. Call me a mediator, but this is how I really view this fight.

[Gandalf]

I've said this from the get go. When you put this match-up in debate each side can argue why their fighter is better than the other or why one guy will dominate the other. Both men, if they EVER decide to fight each other will be in there with someone like they've never seen before.

Manny has never fought anyone as quick, as defensively sound, and as confident as Mayweather is. Floyd has never fought anyone as aggressive, with the same heart, and also as confident as Manny is. Call me a mediator, but this is how I really view this fight.

That is quite true. We can all argue our points of view and back and forth they will go, but neither one of us quite knows how those styles will mesh (except for Taeth, of course). We all have our suspicions and ideas, but all of us have been proven quite wrong at some stage in the past (except for Taeth who always knew). Let's just hope this bugger of a fight gets made!

[Taeth]

I've said this from the get go. When you put this match-up in debate each side can argue why their fighter is better than the other or why one guy will dominate the other. Both men, if they EVER decide to fight each other will be in there with someone like they've never seen before.

Manny has never fought anyone as quick, as defensively sound, and as confident as Mayweather is. Floyd has never fought anyone as aggressive, with the same heart, and also as confident as Manny is. Call me a mediator, but this is how I really view this fight.

That is quite true. We can all argue our points of view and back and forth they will go, but neither one of us quite knows how those styles will mesh (except for Taeth, of course). We all have our suspicions and ideas, but all of us have been proven quite wrong at some stage in the past (except for Taeth who always knew). Let's just hope this bugger of a fight gets made!

So when I am right, like I was with Mayweather against Mosley, and everyone else will you finally believe what I say? I have never stated I am always right with every fighter, but that's because nobody else in boxing since Duran fights as completely as Mayweather does, but he is much faster and has taken that mind set to a higher level. I also think Timothy Bradley is showing a lot of great promise in these same categories, but he needs to brush up on his defense and stop winging punches occasionally.

All that being said I've watched these two in particular as much if not more than probably anyone else. They are my two favorite fighters, and I think that I have enough knowledge of the sport and how these two distinct fighters fight that it is relatively easy to make assessments about how this will turn out. Even people who watch team sports which are 10x harder to predict usually can do so with great accuracy and regularity if they really focus on studying the sport.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

It may not be significantly higher after a couple of rounds of getting whacked in the dish by a Floyd counter every time he starts an attack. JMM's output dropped somewhat after a couple of rounds of whackage.

[Gandalf]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

It may not be significantly higher after a couple of rounds of getting whacked in the dish by a Floyd counter every time he starts an attack. JMM's output dropped somewhat after a couple of rounds of whackage.

Would Marquez have dusted up Cotto? Would Marquez have dusted up Hatton? Would Marquez have dusted up Clottey?

Is no the answer? And yet you are so sure that 2 rounds with Floyd would be the difference between him and Manny. Get real on the boxing dammit.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

It may not be significantly higher after a couple of rounds of getting whacked in the dish by a Floyd counter every time he starts an attack. JMM's output dropped somewhat after a couple of rounds of whackage.

Would Marquez have dusted up Cotto? Would Marquez have dusted up Hatton? Would Marquez have dusted up Clottey?

Is no the answer? And yet you are so sure that 2 rounds with Floyd would be the difference between him and Manny. Get real on the boxing dammit.

Shane Mosley then. Same thing again after a couple of rounds.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

It may not be significantly higher after a couple of rounds of getting whacked in the dish by a Floyd counter every time he starts an attack. JMM's output dropped somewhat after a couple of rounds of whackage.

Would Marquez have dusted up Cotto? Would Marquez have dusted up Hatton? Would Marquez have dusted up Clottey?

Is no the answer? And yet you are so sure that 2 rounds with Floyd would be the difference between him and Manny. Get real on the boxing dammit.

the Marquez that Floyd beat still beats Hatton at 140, and lets flip it

would that Clottey that fought Pacquiao have landed anything cleanly on Floyd? or would he have gotten the same one sided beating for 12 rounds?

[DaxxKahn]

I think Manny has the faster hands and can also throw them in combinations. Floyd only throws one at a time, at the most we will see 3 punches. Pac has a solid chin and I see no way that Floyd can deal with what Manny offers. Manny has everything Hatton had times 10. I think he is now the all round package and that Floyd will be overwhelmed. The second round of the Mosley fight also tells me that Floyds chin isn't all that sharp if you can rattle it often enough. Floyd isn't stopping anyone and he isn't going to outwork Manny. Floyd is 33, pushing 34, just back off a long lay off and hasn't beaten anyone in their prime or in their weight class in a long time.

Manny is too hot for him now.

Manny won't be able to throw effective combos against Floyd... not like he is used to. FACT

And Floyd can let his hands go... but that's not how he boxes... but it doesn't mean that he can't... it's just not a relevant factor in this fight. I think you should read what I posted over mate

What is Manny going to do to get himself in position and keep Floyd where he wants him? He can walk him down, keep on him and throw loads of combos... it has to be one or the other... he's not going to beat mayweather by fighting mayweather's fight because mayweather is better at fighting that why and Mayweather isn't going to allow him the movement and angles that he needs to get those combos off and keep them going.

The more I think about it the more I see Floyd shutting down most of Manny's strengths.

No his output won't be as much, but it will be significantly higher than Floyd's. If Hatton can keep up with Floyd for half a fight, then Manny can go all the way. Floyd is older now and fights more flatfooted, his upper body defence is still spot on, but he isn't as elusive, he can be tagged and is getting hit more than he used to. Not a massive amount, but punches are landing. Manny has the footwork, power and speed to cause Floyd a lot of problems. I also don't think Floyd deals as effectively with southpaws. If Zab can be up after 4 rounds, then you know Manny can be too and Manny doesn't have Zab's ADD either, so will be able to sustain it or adapt according to what Roach sees fit. I honestly think Mosley was out far too long and age caught him somewhat and that Marquez was a LW fighting a WW and was much too small. Floyd hasn't beaten someone in their prime nor weight class for years now.

It may not be significantly higher after a couple of rounds of getting whacked in the dish by a Floyd counter every time he starts an attack. JMM's output dropped somewhat after a couple of rounds of whackage.

Would Marquez have dusted up Cotto? Would Marquez have dusted up Hatton? Would Marquez have dusted up Clottey?

Is no the answer? And yet you are so sure that 2 rounds with Floyd would be the difference between him and Manny. Get real on the boxing dammit.

the Marquez that Floyd beat still beats Hatton at 140, and lets flip it

would that Clottey that fought Pacquiao have landed anything cleanly on Floyd? or would he have gotten the same one sided beating for 12 rounds?

Clottey admitted himself he could not open up because of how many npunches were coming at him...Though Floyd beats him Floyd would have countered more and not been as agressive as Manny was with him....Clottey would have gotten in more shots