So....is war in the Middle East imminent?

[Nameless]

It doesn't matter, these are awful people and who gives a fuck about the terror suspects. We could have killed Bin Laden on day 1, we would still have a reason to get rid of the fucking taliban. They are awful. I just read today they executed a 7 year old boy accusing him of being a spy. Whether we gave them support in the past or not, is anyone here actually against fighting the Taliban?

Taliban Kill, Hang 7-Year-Old Boy as Government Spy

Who said they were friendly guys? Is the 7 years old murder really a surprise? Nope. We all know they things like that. However, how is it ok to loyally support them all gun ho till the Afghan war, even inviting them to Washington to promote their image and then deciding they were bad guys because they didn't obey their master? Nobody gave a fuck about peoples over there in Washington because they financed their most radical leaders and wouldn't it be for the Caspian sea petrol, they would have never landed a boot over there to "hunt Bin Laden". There are regimes as bad in Africa, notably Somalia where pirates stole more than 100 millions of material a year but they do not land in there because there ain't money to do. Same for North Korea which is much more frightening than a handful of bearded man riding 1970 motorcycles and drinking tea in some caves. The problem now is that they created a gigantic havok and can't afford to lose face, especially because of the tensions everywhere else make the region too dangerous. Talibans are disgusting peoples but you're very naive if you think that the US landed there to "save their peoples". If the Talibans would have accepted the Caspian Sea pipe, they would rule with iron hands and not even a single G.I would have land over there, at best they would condone their actions at the UN but they would not have removed them from power.

So you agree with me then that we must all be very naieve to believe that the furore against Israel now is all to do with concern for the plight of the Gazan people. You just explained excellently how the world cares nothing for the plight of others except when it suits their own ends, and thus in the case of Gaza, it is the new propaganda tool to exploit the Israeli's with. They are just pawns in an anti semitic attack. The Arab world would like to have another go at the six day war, but obviously with different results this time, and the first stage is to win the war of public opinion.

Excellent post Nameless, I agree with everything you said

Thanks for agreeing. However, I do not agree with your logic:

More than 200 motions have voted against Israel, many for war crimes at the UN but the Us systematically used their veto to block the whole deal. When 200 motions have been voted, it shows people care.

The Afghan case is absolutely different from Palestine who gets its land stolen, their water blocked and the simplest of material blocked from getting in. Afghan's borders aren't in cause in the case that interests us.

When you send 10 000 tons of medical help to a place where there is not a dime to be made (compared to billions with the pipeline) and that you challenge one very dangerous Army in Tsahal, it must be because somehow, you care about these peoples to take such risks.

Also, Comparatively to Afghanistan where the Us did put Hamid Karzai, an ex Texaco consultant (or Chevron, anyway one of these) to the head of the country to serve their interests, Israel did elect themselves their very own government which is not an ex consultant who works for the American oil interests to replace the Talibans, the butchers, the same U.S did put before to serve these same interests but had to be removed because they weren't docile.

Do not lose from sight that the US gag balled the UN because Israel, despite their incessant massacres and illegal land stealing, were serving their interests by being a threat to the "muslim" world.

2 very different situations Mr BAggins, I tell ya but thanks for agreeing with me on the Afghan case