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    Default Re: holmes vs louis

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
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    Holmes wins with use of jab to hurt Louis and even stop him late. Louis was the 2nd best heavyweight champion ever but still think he would lose to certain fighters including Tyson early.
    .....Louis would CRUSH Tyson
    Not if Tyson crushed him first. Louis was a slow starter and had been knocked down early a number of times. Tyson best chances was early and he always started fast. If it did not happen early you could well be right with your opinion.
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    Holmes wins with use of jab to hurt Louis and even stop him late. Louis was the 2nd best heavyweight champion ever but still think he would lose to certain fighters including Tyson early.
    .....Louis would CRUSH Tyson
    Not if Tyson crushed him first. Louis was a slow starter and had been knocked down early a number of times. Tyson best chances was early and he always started fast. If it did not happen early you could well be right with your opinion.
    Max Schmelling found out what a slow starter Louis was when properly motivated. Given who Louis had to defend against, who could blame him for starting a little slow?

    And you could count on 1 hand how many times Joe swung and missed with that right cross...he was a master at knowing his range and in my opinion he knew how to box enough to bother Tyson terribly.

    Tyson in his prime got the hell rocked out of him by Smith and Bruno....what would happen if Joe dropped a right cross on Tyson's chin?

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    No shame being wobbled by those two fighters but being knocked down by Two Ton Galanto etc that would be more worrying.
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    No shame being wobbled by those two fighters but being knocked down by Two Ton Galanto etc that would be more worrying.
    ....yeah but how focused would he have to be to defend a title vs that dude? Plus Tony was known to foul quite a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
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    No shame being wobbled by those two fighters but being knocked down by Two Ton Galanto etc that would be more worrying.
    ....yeah but how focused would he have to be to defend a title vs that dude? Plus Tony was known to foul quite a bit
    So was Tyson, just a little bit more.
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    Default Re: holmes vs louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    No shame being wobbled by those two fighters but being knocked down by Two Ton Galanto etc that would be more worrying.
    ....yeah but how focused would he have to be to defend a title vs that dude? Plus Tony was known to foul quite a bit
    So was Tyson, just a little bit more.
    In truth name a HW legend who hasn't been known to foul in thier own way? Probably 90% of them had one trait or another....

    Tyson followed w the elbow...

    Holyfield was king OF THE HEADBUTTS AND ELBOWS...

    Ali held and hit behind the head...

    Foreman hit behind the head in his first run...

    Holmes would keep the stiff arm...

    Lennox hit behind the head, used stiff arm held behind the head

    The cleanest ones were probably Charles, Tunney, Patterson, Frazier

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    Default Re: holmes vs louis

    I think Louis would win as he would eventually get past the jab and when he did his freak power would KO Holmes. Good matchup here though, I like that one.

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    Default Re: holmes vs louis

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    I think Louis would win as he would eventually get past the jab and when he did his freak power would KO Holmes. Good matchup here though, I like that one.
    Do not think anyone in history can stop a prime Holmes, his chin and recuperative powers were second to none.
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    Default Re: holmes vs louis

    Love Joe Louis but I'll take Holmes over him any day of the week. We've seen Louis completely outfoxed by guys like Billy Conn and Jersey Joe. Louis was one of the greatest boxer/punchers of all time but I see Larry keeping him off balance like Conn and Jersey Joe did and pumping that sledgehammer jab into Joe's face at will.

    Holmes by UD or late stoppage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Love Joe Louis but I'll take Holmes over him any day of the week. We've seen Louis completely outfoxed by guys like Billy Conn and Jersey Joe. Louis was one of the greatest boxer/punchers of all time but I see Larry keeping him off balance like Conn and Jersey Joe did and pumping that sledgehammer jab into Joe's face at will.

    Holmes by UD or late stoppage.
    ....in all honesty he lost to Walcott in 1950 and he stopped Conn twice

    Holmes got lazy in the ring quite a bit and was open to getting rocked and if you're hurt vs Louis you're finished

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