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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Bute in talks for the Fall, says Schaefer

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Hopkins is old but I really don't see anything in Bute's style that would bother Hopkins. If edison miranda can find any kind of range on you and hit you consistently I wouldn't
    want to think what Hopkins would hit especially with his spoiler style I could see him nailing Bute from the outside with straights and then getting inside and making it dirty and wearing Bute down late.

    People seem to always overestimate someone against B-Hop after a bad performance I'm beginning to think its a ploy by Hopkins. Bute has a style Hopkins would pick apart, and for anyone that thinks Bute would stop Hopkins why would Hopkins ever be stopped by anyone? Everyone thought Pavlik would stop him too.
    Bute dominated Edison Miranda. Try and watch that one more time. It won't take you very long because Miranda had lost all sense of time and place by the middle of the 4th. That means basically all you need is ten minutes to check it out. The knockout was killer.

    But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.

    It would be a test for Bute, but consider when was the last time Bute really was dominated in a round. The only round I've seen Bute lose convincingly in recent memory was the last one with Andrade in their first fight. I mean I haven't seen anyone win a round on him in a while. At least not dominated a round against him. He beat Zuniga, Miranda, and Andrade within four rounds. He was the first person to knock out Andrade - and with a body shot! He won every single round against Bika, well, maybe he lost one, but pretty much dominated the whole entire fight. Joppy and Berrio never really won a round either. Actually, that's not true Berrio may have won a couple, but you get my drift. From never really losing a round, to losing every round against Hopkins, would be a bit wild.

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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Bute in talks for the Fall, says Schaefer

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Hopkins is old but I really don't see anything in Bute's style that would bother Hopkins. If edison miranda can find any kind of range on you and hit you consistently I wouldn't
    want to think what Hopkins would hit especially with his spoiler style I could see him nailing Bute from the outside with straights and then getting inside and making it dirty and wearing Bute down late.

    People seem to always overestimate someone against B-Hop after a bad performance I'm beginning to think its a ploy by Hopkins. Bute has a style Hopkins would pick apart, and for anyone that thinks Bute would stop Hopkins why would Hopkins ever be stopped by anyone? Everyone thought Pavlik would stop him too.
    Bute dominated Edison Miranda. Try and watch that one more time. It won't take you very long because Miranda had lost all sense of time and place by the middle of the 4th. That means basically all you need is ten minutes to check it out. The knockout was killer.

    But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.

    It would be a test for Bute, but consider when was the last time Bute really was dominated in a round. The only round I've seen Bute lose convincingly in recent memory was the last one with Andrade in their first fight. I mean I haven't seen anyone win a round on him in a while. At least not dominated a round against him. He beat Zuniga, Miranda, and Andrade within four rounds. He was the first person to knock out Andrade - and with a body shot! He won every single round against Bika, well, maybe he lost one, but pretty much dominated the whole entire fight. Joppy and Berrio never really won a round either. Actually, that's not true Berrio may have won a couple, but you get my drift. From never really losing a round, to losing every round against Hopkins, would be a bit wild.
    While I agree more then likely he will not stop Hopkins lets not get crazy and not think it could not happen be it against Bute or any of the other SMW at this point...They are all in their primes and all hard hard fighters....Hopkins is past his best severly....He is begging for glory years that escaped him due to the fact he was an ignored champion due to his own attitude for most of his MW reign.....But these guys at SMW Bute, Ward, Froch, Abraham are all tough guys that are willing to get dirty with him....IMO his best chance against Bute is a nasty fight that he will still lose by dec but to say a KO is impossible (Not that you said it inparticular) is a bit overboard....

    IMO a fight with Abraham or Froch guys who like that dirty style of fighting would beat Hopkins down at this stage

    Who thought Jones would get KO'd by Tarver and Johnson...

    Whot thought Tony would get stopped by Mosley? Andrade by Bute? Darchinyan by Donaire etc....All guys no one ever expected to be stopped especially in the fashion they did...Hopkins is just a man like the rest and a man who waayyyy past his best years....

    I was once a big big Hopkins fan but now he is just embaressing himself by his antics and performances in the ring and making a mockery of the sport by thinking this is world class and what people want to see...Why does it matter what the people want? Well because in the end thats who really pays the purses

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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Bute in talks for the Fall, says Schaefer

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.

    I'd tell Bute, "set the old man on his ass or go home a loser."

    Bute is about as good as he will ever get. Hopkins is practically a senior citizen.

    "Bute, this grey beard has been in decline for a decade. If he hangs on you like a cheap suit it's because your mama never taught you how to dress. Impose you will on this has been and KNOCK HIM OUT."

    Then I'd slap Bute in the face with a bag of ice and call him a mouse turd.

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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Bute in talks for the Fall, says Schaefer

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.

    I'd tell Bute, "set the old man on his ass or go home a loser."

    Bute is about as good as he will ever get. Hopkins is practically a senior citizen.

    "Bute, this grey beard has been in decline for a decade. If he hangs on you like a cheap suit it's because your mama never taught you how to dress. Impose you will on this has been and KNOCK HIM OUT."

    Then I'd slap Bute in the face with a bag of ice and call him a mouse turd.

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