Haye one of worst heavyweight champs of all time?

[Bigdog1981]

A few david haye stats over his last seven fights.

The average age of his opponent is 35 years 4 months and 16 days. This would be much higher if you remove enzo from the list as he was 27 at the time of the fight.

Haye takes an average of 205 days between fights.

As a Heavyweight he has scored 12 knockdowns in four fights.

Make up your own mind.

[superheavyrhun]

A few david haye stats over his last seven fights.

1) The average age of his opponent is 35 years 4 months and 16 days. This would be much higher if you remove enzo from the list as he was 27 at the time of the fight.

2) Haye takes an average of 205 days between fights.

3) As a Heavyweight he has scored 12 knockdowns in four fights.

Make up your own mind.

To take your points in order, from an unconvinced but hopeful Haye fan.

1) The average age of fighters in the top 25 heavies is 32, and in a division where age isn't as much of a barrier (see Evander getting jobbed against Valuev) 35 years isn't that old.

2) Would you rather see him take the Klitschko method beating up no-hopers once a quarter in front of big crowds in Germany. He could easily earn his pension in that way, but has said it's only big fights he wants.

3) 12 knockdowns in four fights? I'm not sure I see the negative in this. He's a power puncher, doesn't wear down fighters like the 2k's. Knockdowns are a good thing in my book.

All I'm going to say is let the negotiating teams hammer it out. Like Mayweather v Pacquiao, there's too much money there for the fights not to get made. Eventually, it will talk, and the fights will get made.

[ono]

Valuev and Seldon for me.

[Spicoli]

I gotta go either Valuev or one not mentioned...Buster Douglas.I mean at least all others gave themselves a chance to win in first defense and not go from physical phenom to gelatinous mess almost overnight.

Damiani was a WBO joke but could box like a fool and was schooling undefeated Ray Mercer,badly.Bruce seldon takes much flack after going school girl against Tyson but really...he had good hands,speed and a killer jab.His problem was a match stick chin and a chest full of purring kittens when it got tough.

[Lefty]

Haye hasn't even finished his career yet. And has had what 4 HW fights ?

And I guess it must be an achievement in your eyes to go down as the worst HW champion of all time yet he must be one of the most exciting as well. Weird.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Haye hasn't even finished his career yet. And has had what 4 HW fights ?

And I guess it must be an achievement in your eyes to go down as the worst HW champion of all time yet he must be one of the most exciting as well. Weird.

Haye/Valuev will go down as one of the most boring HW fights of all time, and Haye/Ruiz barely got a buzz, so dunno how you can label him as one of the most exciting HW's

[CutMeMick]

Nowhere near that IMO.
He packs a punch, he's exciting and he still hasn't retired...

The worst for me are Sharkey which in turn leads you to Carnera.
There's also room for Nikolay, Rahman & Thomas.