Haye one of worst heavyweight champs of all time?

[Nameless]

i dunno but ruiz was bad..

Ruiz will be pretty tough to move away from the #1 spot of worst HW of all time actually.

Ruiz is nowhere near the worst HW of all time. He might not have been exciting, but he was a good fighter. Only Tua, Jones & Haye have ever clearly beat him. Compared to the likes of Primo Carnera, Lee Savold, Gerrie Coetzee & Bruce Seldon, I think Ruiz isn't too bad.

Carnera and Seldon were quite bad, probablyworst but the jab jab grab is giving me skin rashes but yeah, he was bad but not in the top 5 yet probably.

[El Kabong]

Let's take a close look at just who the guy has fought at heavyweight.....

Tomaz Bonin: 34 years old; 37(20 KO)-1; Just 3 short years earlier AUDLEY HARRISON TKO'd Bonin and aside from heavyweight door mat Garing Lane, Harrison is still the ONLY heavyweight I know of on his entire record....so that 37 wins looks more like "37 wins" because it looks like he never fought anyone and for good reason

Monte Barrett: 37 years old; 34 (20 KO)-6; They fought in 2008, Monte caught his "2nd wind of a prime" in 2003-2004 with wins over Domonick Guinn and Owen Beck (which meant something at the time) and a close loss to Joe Mesi prior to that in 1999 he lost a razor thin decision to Lance Whittaker (once again that USED to mean something) and in 2000 Wlad dropped him 5 times stopping him in 7....Barrett recovered to become a tomato can but he was "well done" before the fight vs Chicken Little...Odlainer Solis stopped him in 2 rounds right after "The Yellow One"

Nicolay Valuev: 36 years old; 50 (34 KO)-1; never really had a "prime" or "signature win" mainly just a whole lot of very close decisions. An ANCIENT Evander Holyfield got robbed vs the giant right before Chicken Little got to Valuev....so take from this win what you will, Valuev was another WBA strap holder that flat out refused to fight anyone worth a damn.

John Ruiz: 38 years old; 44 (30 KO)-8-1; was 6-4 with 1 no contest in his last 11 fights going into his fight vs Chicken Little.....his "prime" if he had one was from 2000-2001 where he Lost, Won, and Drew vs an old Evander Holyfield.

So basically what I'm saying is this dude calls out Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko and he has yet to even fight a guy like Eddie Chambers or Cris Arreola....at least those dudes had the guts to fight the best of the best.

You can't talk all that shit and then fight those guys he fought and expect me as a fan to be in awe of his skill....he fought OLD fighters but I guess this time, unlike vs Carl Thompson he actually pulled out wins.

[skel1983]

Hahah as you all probably no I think he is a clever fraud, but the worst wtf?? How the fuck can you judge?? He is 29 holds the WBA title and unbeaton at heavyweight and still going strong? Bit silly really.

[Hunter]

The fact that this is even a topic of argument says it all.....

[sasquatch]

i dunno but ruiz was bad..

Ruiz will be pretty tough to move away from the #1 spot of worst HW of all time actually.

Ruiz is nowhere near the worst HW of all time. He might not have been exciting, but he was a good fighter. Only Tua, Jones & Haye have ever clearly beat him. Compared to the likes of Primo Carnera, Lee Savold, Gerrie Coetzee & Bruce Seldon, I think Ruiz isn't too bad.

Carnera and Seldon were quite bad, probablyworst but the jab jab grab is giving me skin rashes but yeah, he was bad but not in the top 5 yet probably.

On paper, Leon Spinks is unquestionably the worst HW champion of all time.