Mma vs box

[0james0]

I re-opened this debate (sort of) with a friend last night while watching UFC something or other.

Not even sure how recent the card was, but it was a good one.

The conversation started while watching Chuck Liddell batter a guy, with neither prepared to go to ground and both stood and fought the whole fight.

It got me thinking, someone like Liddell, there can't be many boxers that would knock him out? The guy is solid! Not sure on his weight though, but I'm sure he could avoid heavyweight.

He can take a punch and can land massive bombs, he would trouble many boxers.

[Mattyhitman]

I re-opened this debate (sort of) with a friend last night while watching UFC something or other.

Not even sure how recent the card was, but it was a good one.

The conversation started while watching Chuck Liddell batter a guy, with neither prepared to go to ground and both stood and fought the whole fight.

It got me thinking, someone like Liddell, there can't be many boxers that would knock him out? The guy is solid! Not sure on his weight though, but I'm sure he could avoid heavyweight.

He can take a punch and can land massive bombs, he would trouble many boxers.

Clearly an old Chuck fight bud, cos he now has NO chin as proven by Rich Franklin in his last fight

Back in the day he was one of the toughest SOB's in the game, unfortunately now a shot fighter

[0james0]

Must have been old then, his record was 23-5 going into the fight, so maybe you can guage it by that.

The whole card was pretty good, it was on Five USA+1 at about 1am this morning!

It also had a guy who managed to pull off a switch to arm bar in one of the slickest and fastest ways I've ever seen.

[ralph]

Clearly an old Chuck fight bud, cos he now has NO chin as proven by Rich Franklin in his last fight

Back in the day he was one of the toughest SOB's in the game, unfortunately now a shot fighter

But "old Chuck" Had enough left to break Franklin's arm with a kick.

[ross]

I re-opened this debate (sort of) with a friend last night while watching UFC something or other.

Not even sure how recent the card was, but it was a good one.

The conversation started while watching Chuck Liddell batter a guy, with neither prepared to go to ground and both stood and fought the whole fight.

It got me thinking, someone like Liddell, there can't be many boxers that would knock him out? The guy is solid! Not sure on his weight though, but I'm sure he could avoid heavyweight.

He can take a punch and can land massive bombs, he would trouble many boxers.

A fight between him and Herbie Hide would be good fun

[canada180]

I re-opened this debate (sort of) with a friend last night while watching UFC something or other.

Not even sure how recent the card was, but it was a good one.

The conversation started while watching Chuck Liddell batter a guy, with neither prepared to go to ground and both stood and fought the whole fight.

It got me thinking, someone like Liddell, there can't be many boxers that would knock him out? The guy is solid! Not sure on his weight though, but I'm sure he could avoid heavyweight.

He can take a punch and can land massive bombs, he would trouble many boxers.

A fight between him and Herbie Hide would be good fun

Yu are dreamin in technicolor if you think a mma fighter would come close to a world ranked boxer in terms of punching power.

I havent seen a mma fighter that would last very long in a true boxing match against a ranked opponent

[:::PSL:::]

"All we do is work our punching".

[El Kabong]

I It got me thinking, someone like Liddell, there can't be many boxers that would knock him out? The guy is solid! Not sure on his weight though, but I'm sure he could avoid heavyweight.

He can take a punch and can land massive bombs, he would trouble many boxers.

Chuck didn't have the SKILL to be a boxer...he could bang for an MMA fighter but in boxing it's hit and don't get hit and Rampage showed just how easy it is to counter Chuck. Look up their second fight and you'll see for yourself, low hands, chin up high in the air, doesn't use angles or a jab to work in he just leaps in with a power punch and it's goodnight sweetheart

[badr_hari]

i think this video is funny:

[Saddo]

i think this video is funny:

My kids and the wife where giving me some funny looks with the sounds coming out of my laptop... but yeah FUNNY

[luvfightgame]

Ummmmm, I think it really depends on who we are talking about.

Lots of boxers don't hit hard. The only problem I have with this argument is the mythical skill level that comes into play when talking about boxer vs mma.

Are we talking about someone like Cory Spinks, Paulie M? These are world class boxers that don't punch hard.

[Captain America]

MMA gloves are 4 oz for whoever asked.

If you just want to talk punching, the boxer wins the majority of the time. But if you want to talk street fights, MMA all day long.

How many boxers can read a leg kick coming? How many can properly check one? What about head kicks? What about a Muay Thai clinch (both hands clasped around the back of the head and neck for control, ideal for throwing knees to the face)?

Boxers are better punchers, no question about that. But mixed martial artists are better fighters

[JKDnewsletter1]

Gloves may be irrelevant. I think it boils down to the fighter. I’m sure some boxers could hit harder than mma guys, but there are some mma guys who hit harder than boxers.

Not sure if this would help or not, but here is many JKD instructor’s view on a similar topic, you can check it out for no charge: JKDnewsletter.com

[:::PSL:::]

George St. Pierre as a boxer?

He's currently training with Roach and Manny.

[AdamGB]

I'll give my thoughts...

A boxer is used to hitting with his hands wrapped, foam padded and then padded by gloves, somtimes up to 16oz during bag work etc.

This is primarily to proect his hands because generally bones in your hand aren't large enough to disperse the force generated... if you hit a reletavily padded object such as a head guard you'll know about it if you do it enough times and you'll know about it... anybody who's competed here even WEARING gloves will probably have had to stick there fists in ice after a fight if they can bang even a little bit. That's from hitting a human skull, harder than concrete... but you can pretty much punch as hard as you want to all night long without SERIOUS pain.

Try that shit bare knuckle and you'll probably break your hand if it's a solid hit.

MMA fighters on the other hand (excuse the pun) fight and train with a relativly small ammount of padding on the hands, to allow for grappling and because 'striking' is not a major part of the sport.

because of being conditioned this way I believe that in a street fight an MMA fighter is neurologically wired to pull his punches a little more because his body knows that it will break it's bones if it doesn't.

A boxer doesn't have this neurological brake, so he's more likely to swing with everything bare knuckle at what is essentiall concrete. When you factor in the fact that the boxer works exclusively on developing his punching as his form of attack and hasn't developed any inhibitions to punching a target with full force:

Who is more likely to hit harder? A Boxer
Who is less likely to fracture their had? An MMA fighter.

nothing to do with strength, technique, stronger bones or what ever you want to say... MMA fighters have to exercise more restraint in punching more for various reasons so are more likely to do it when the risk of breaking their hand is highest.