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    Default Re: What kind of negotiations exactly were these?

    pacsstraightleft,

    yeah, if mayweather is a coward like pacquiao, then so be it. isn't it pacroido who has ducked so many fighters throughout his career? oh sure he beat morales and barrera but that's when they were way past their prime. marquez already showed (with or without the judges) that he kicked pacquiao's ass. why do you think pacquiao absolutely ignored and ducked him for a third fight? up until he started fighting as a welterweight, pacroido has been carefully matched. even now, arum absolutely rejects pacroido fighting paul williams or timothy bradley. coincidence or what!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    pacsstraightleft,

    yeah, if mayweather is a coward like pacquiao, then so be it. isn't it pacroido who has ducked so many fighters throughout his career? oh sure he beat morales and barrera but that's when they were way past their prime. marquez already showed (with or without the judges) that he kicked pacquiao's ass. why do you think pacquiao absolutely ignored and ducked him for a third fight? up until he started fighting as a welterweight, pacroido has been carefully matched. even now, arum absolutely rejects pacroido fighting paul williams or timothy bradley. coincidence or what!?
    ummmm didn't Barrera then go on to beat Morales in the 3rd fight, win the WBC featherweight title, then unify the IBF title, get wins against Juarez (who pushed John to the limit), then have a close loss to Marquez?!? riiiiiiiight, Morales was passed after the Raheem fight, yet he still managed to beat David Diaz (although was robbed), so he wasn't completely shot either, who really can you say Pacquiao has avoided aside from Mosley? you can make a more convincing case that Marquez ran away from 135 to avoid to fight the stacked division while there are guys like Katsidis, Funeka, Soto, Guerrero, Murray, Peterson, Antillon, etc., yet do i think that? no

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    el terrible,

    you know, if you had your face anymore inside pacroido's culito, your name would change to (el chocolatito). so you tell me morales wasn't way past his prime for their 2nd and 3rd fight? you're going to say that his trilogy with barrera didn't take anything out of him? the way morales got slapped around by raheem only proves he was done as a championship fighter. oh, he still had skills but not like when he was in his prime. me entiendes culito? what's the matter, still sore and can't get over margarito destroying your cottito? tu eres un pendejo, mamoncito puerquito!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    el terrible,

    you know, if you had your face anymore inside pacroido's culito, your name would change to (el chocolatito). so you tell me morales wasn't way past his prime for their 2nd and 3rd fight? you're going to say that his trilogy with barrera didn't take anything out of him? the way morales got slapped around by raheem only proves he was done as a championship fighter. oh, he still had skills but not like when he was in his prime. me entiendes culito? what's the matter, still sore and can't get over margarito destroying your cottito? tu eres un pendejo, mamoncito puerquito!
    ummm wtf does Margarito/Cotto have to do with this jackass? lol look back and i had picked Margarito to win dipshit, and you'll also see i'm probably usually the last person to defend Pacquiao, being dubbed "the biggest hater" by most of his retarded fans, i'm not blind like your red, white, and green ass, if the fighter of your choosing (Margarito) wins by cheating you're all it's fine, yet the dude that hasn't been caught yet (and yea i believe he's on something but well it hasn't been proven) you automatically dub him the cheater?!? lol that's some funny shit dude seriously, and yea clutch onto that Margarito/Cotto win, cause since then when has there been a significant fight where a Puerto Rican has lost to a Mexican? oh right Kermit "el lloron" Cintron le comio el culo a Alfredo Angulo, Juanma Lopez whipped Ponce De Leon's ass, Calderon spanked Cazares TWICE and Iribe, and although Ruiz sucked ass, he ended up a multiple time world champ and is THE FIRST AND ONLY LATINO HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP (going a bit low here yes i know lol), Arreola hasn't even been able to pick up one title hahaha, as for Montiel vs Morel i honestly hope Montiel smashes that pedophiles ass so you can have that one

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    Default Re: What kind of negotiations exactly were these?

    I think it's ridiculous that all negotiations were conducted through Ross Greenburg. At least get Greenburg to sit them down in a room together and act as intermediary that way, but he shouldn't be passing messages. I could understand Pacquiao & Mayweather acting like that, they're both two ATG fighters with egos matching that, but Bob Arum & Al Haymon are a pair of businessmen who should be able to sit down in a room & make a deal regardless of their personal issues with one another.

    I still think this fight happens, although I can understand both points of view. Manny is an elected official and wants to have an opponent sorted so that he can plan his schedule. Floyd wants to wait till the trial in August to see what the situation is with his uncle.

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