Extending Arms - Shadow Boxing

[HerbM]

if the technique is correct (weight going onto back leg) you'll never go off-balance when you miss a shot during fighting/sparring.

wasn't the weight transfer from the back leg to the front leg, while throwing straight punches ?

In general, you don't want to transfer weight onto the front foot when punching; it makes you very vulnerable and decreases you mobility for avoiding what comes at you next.

This is especially important when you MISS (as Fran was pointing out) because then the tendency is even stronger to transfer weight there even more strongly (since there is not contact to help you stop the motion) and thus makes the problem worse for misses.

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HerbM

[jahmez]

You can't generate power with a straight right by transferring your weight to your back foot.

[jahmez]

Shadowboxing is a great way to develop speed and power as long as you are focusing on technique first. The best way to throw fluid and fast combinations is to practice them shadowboxing.

[Scrap]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

[The Student]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

[cambay411]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

Student or Scrap can you please tell me where the stretches are you are talking about in this post?!?!?!?!

[The Student]

Cambay please see the quote below, plus the link at the bottom.. there's a whole topic on scrap's stretching program... some great stuff there!

okay you did weights, at a guess i would think the muscles that oppose the action of the jab the frontal muscles of the shoulder want losening and stretching. Look at scraps stretches try the stick one you can do it with a woody band. Now another you can try is put your hands to your side. Palms facing forward then pushing your shouders back, put one of your hands behind you and put it on the forearm 4 inch above the wrist of the other arm. Now push up with the straight arm and resists with the other arm and hand, while raising, when at 90% start coming down with the bent arm and resist with the other arm 3 times each side that should sort it after 2 weeks of doing it the jab should be a lot faster. Do it 2 times a day.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...programme.html

[WayneFlint]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

[badr_hari]

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

sorry, but what you said is EXACTLY The Key for throwing an ARM PUNCH.

for a Powerful Right Hand (with the whole body-weight behind it) you should: Pivot with a right foot and with that automatically you transfer the weight from back to front (you can't Pivot with the back leg, stay up on the ball of the feet and still have the weight here), in the same time you make a TINY STEP-in to the left, which is the key to everything: Gives Great Balance, Maximum Power and your head will be in a position almost impossibly to counter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6xE...eature=related

at 5:28 in this video, you see that very Tiny step with the left foot and the PIVOT with the right

[BodyOfWork165]

valuable thread, thank you. - may even print this one out.

[badr_hari]

You can't generate power with a straight right by transferring your weight to your back foot.

totally right. If you don't transfer your weight from the back foot to the front foot your RIGHT HAND or even your JAB will be an ARM PUNCH with NO POWER.

And that's why you pivot with your right foot when you throw a right cross (on the balls of your feet), it helps with two things: gives the space for the rotation of the hips and the shoulders. That's why Scrap says the right foot is for power and the left foot is for direction - balance. To stay Balanced while throwing a Powerful right hand its recommended to make a TINY STEP to the LEFT. With this move even if you miss a very powerful right hand you won't be off-balanced.

[Fran@myboxingcoach]

You can't generate power with a straight right by transferring your weight to your back foot.

totally right. If you don't transfer your weight from the back foot to the front foot your RIGHT HAND or even your JAB will be an ARM PUNCH with NO POWER.

And that's why you pivot with your right foot when you throw a right cross (on the balls of your feet), it helps with two things: gives the space for the rotation of the hips and the shoulders. That's why Scrap says the right foot is for power and the left foot is for direction - balance. To stay Balanced while throwing a Powerful right hand its recommended to make a TINY STEP to the LEFT. With this move even if you miss a very powerful right hand you won't be off-balanced.

I'm not going to pretend to understand the minutae of detail that this thread has gone to, but I will try to respond with regards to basic technical form. Whilst you are in the ring with average, run of the mill type opponents, then you may well get away with throwing your weight onto your front leg when throwing a straight right hand (or any other back hand shot). However, as soon as you're in the company of someone who knows what they are doing, they will detach you from your senses without too much effort. By throwing your weight forward, you absolutely do not 'add power', all you do is increase the impact of any incoming shots thrown by your opponent.

Now, whilst the right cross is technically a power shot, in all honesty I haven't seen that many right hand KOs over the years (Tommy Hearns, Julian Jackson maybe). The majority of KOs come from hooks. So, a short range right hook is the ultimate power shot. Take a look at this video covering the short range right hook and notice that there is no weight transfer to the front leg. The front leg bends, but this is only to accommodate the rotation of the hips and shouldn't be confused with a transfer of weight; the power in the shot comes from the thrust of the back leg and the resultant 'whiplash' action.

In response to Herb re: punching through the target. I do agree that a boxer should punch through the target, but only by an inch or two. I believe that the target should be the target and the culmination of body movements will deliver an appropriately effective shot. What I actually meant was when you see some boxers shadow box, and they throw hooks that don't seem to have a point of impact and will travel past where the opponent's head would be and off for a foot or more! It gets on my nerves and is less than useless!

OK, rant over. I'm off now to reply to another of Herb's posts...I better get another coffee!

Fran