Naz-vs-Marquez? The greatest duck in history? Fact.

[Fenster]

I've just realized something. I was looking at the old Ring Magazine ratings when Hamed was fighting, meaning '90s era. Hamed never once beat a top 10 p4p fighter of his era.
And I'm talking about beating someone who was currently ranked, I'm not talking about someone that fell off the rankings. I could be wrong on this, if so point out to me who he beat that was top 10 p4p at that time.

Hamed was a very good and very exciting fighter, but in my opinion was never elite.

I believe Naz himself was the only P4P featherweight in the late 90s.

You can only meet P4P fighters if they are of similar size/weight to you. I think you will find plenty of fighters become "elite" without beating a fellow P4P incumbent - Hopkins, Lopez etc...

Good point on that, but when Nas dd meet someone who was p4p that was his own size, the outcome was a massive beat down by a guy jumping up in weight.

I've been pretty much tryng to stay out of his debate between you and VD, but I have to agree with him, that Nas never beat any one that was elite and when he did meet someone that was elite it was 1 sided.

I don't see him beating either JMM or Morales at 126.

I've never once said Naz beat an elite fighter - as in a P4P star or an all-time great. I've simply stated he beat the "elite featherweights" (top rated, most decorated) of his time. I've never once called Naz a "great" during this thread.

Greats like Morales never went to featherweight until the end of Naz's era. And Naz basically had to chose between Barrera and Morales at that time. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered by then