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    Default Re: Khan Vs. Marquez

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    Me being a JMM fan i don't want to see the fight, JMM is far too small. I mean he's pushing his luck at Lightweight, i'd rather him just stay where he is. Im sick of fighters having to move up and down. JMM has plenty of challenges in his own weightclass, and so does Amir Khan.
    Yeah but if fighters never moved up or down we wouldn't have seen Hatton headbutting a turnbuckle, norr would we be even talking about a potential Mayweather - Pacquiao fight.

    I don't see the worry with Marquez fighting Khan. At 135 he knocked out two of the best fighters. It only looked a struggle because he didn't box. Khan only moved up to 140 for a title shot. It's not like he was too big for the weight. Marquez doesn't have to come in at 140. He can give away 3 or 4 pounds and it won't really matter. Marquez ios more than capable of knocking Khan out. Even at 147 he landed clean on Mayweather. If he lands on Khan like that, it's lights out.

    At the end of the day it's night, and Marquez is the best fighter at 135. Khan apparently is nowhere near the best fighter at 140. I fail to see how you see Marquez as being too small to compete with Khan.
    Look i know you and Bilbo like Amir Khan, and me debating whether or not JMM should move up, isn't going to change your mind. All im saying is that Amir Khan has all the physical advantages with big reach and height advantages.

    Aswell as the age factor and the fact that JMM, only moved to Lightweight to chase Manny Pacquiao. In truth he was at his best at Featherweight.

    I really fail to see how this would be much different to the MAB fight, yes of course JMM is fresher than MAB and is rated higher.

    But as i said with the physical advantages, it really isn't a fair fight. JMM has plenty of fights at Lightweight which i would like to see.

    Ali Funeka
    Robert Guerrero
    Humberto Soto
    Michael Katsidis

    And Amir Khan has.

    Timothy Bradley
    Devon Alexander
    Marcos Rene Maidana
    Joan Guzman
    Victor Ortiz

    Im just sick of all this matchmaking all the time, to catch old great fighters at the right time.

    Why not fight the current fighters in your own weightclass ?
    .

    I say bravo to this statement. Always trying to take out the old dogs and not having enough balls to take on the up and comers. They always use the notion well wait until the fighter's get a bit more expierence and then it will be a great fight. Nine times out of ten it's B.S. Let's see the newcomers fight now then decide were they go from there. Marquez is a lightweight and a blown up one at that. Khan is still growing and he probably walks around at about 147. Khan should pick fight's with other biggies in the weight class why not the Khanqueror Bredis Prescott for a huge rematch in England?
    He might not be a natural lightweight, but he still ko'd both Casamayor and Diaz who are both definite lightweights. I'm failing to see how only me and Fenster seem to think this fight would be 50/50. Everyone must really rate Khan.

    My belief it wasn't as much of the weight but simply boxing prowness. Casamayor was just not the same anymore and Marquez simply beat a tired fighter.( I take nothing away from Marquez great fight). Diaz although being an intelligent guy outside the ring he doesn't fight with the same ring smarts. Remember Marquez had a very tough time with the attacking of Diaz early in the fight. Again Diaz tired and Marquez just landed with pinpoint accuracy. The second fight however I think Diaz was trying to be a little smarter and tried to box with Marquez and that is just a no-no in boxing. Never box with a boxer,never punch with a puncher.

    I don't think Khan is that good to be honest I just think he has the faster hands and he is naturally bigger. It is a fight that simple should not be made when there are some many other options in each weight class. I would much rather see Marquez vs Katsidis.

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    Me being a JMM fan i don't want to see the fight, JMM is far too small. I mean he's pushing his luck at Lightweight, i'd rather him just stay where he is. Im sick of fighters having to move up and down. JMM has plenty of challenges in his own weightclass, and so does Amir Khan.
    Yeah but if fighters never moved up or down we wouldn't have seen Hatton headbutting a turnbuckle, norr would we be even talking about a potential Mayweather - Pacquiao fight.

    I don't see the worry with Marquez fighting Khan. At 135 he knocked out two of the best fighters. It only looked a struggle because he didn't box. Khan only moved up to 140 for a title shot. It's not like he was too big for the weight. Marquez doesn't have to come in at 140. He can give away 3 or 4 pounds and it won't really matter. Marquez ios more than capable of knocking Khan out. Even at 147 he landed clean on Mayweather. If he lands on Khan like that, it's lights out.

    At the end of the day it's night, and Marquez is the best fighter at 135. Khan apparently is nowhere near the best fighter at 140. I fail to see how you see Marquez as being too small to compete with Khan.
    Look i know you and Bilbo like Amir Khan, and me debating whether or not JMM should move up, isn't going to change your mind. All im saying is that Amir Khan has all the physical advantages with big reach and height advantages.

    Aswell as the age factor and the fact that JMM, only moved to Lightweight to chase Manny Pacquiao. In truth he was at his best at Featherweight.

    I really fail to see how this would be much different to the MAB fight, yes of course JMM is fresher than MAB and is rated higher.

    But as i said with the physical advantages, it really isn't a fair fight. JMM has plenty of fights at Lightweight which i would like to see.

    Ali Funeka
    Robert Guerrero
    Humberto Soto
    Michael Katsidis

    And Amir Khan has.

    Timothy Bradley
    Devon Alexander
    Marcos Rene Maidana
    Joan Guzman
    Victor Ortiz

    Im just sick of all this matchmaking all the time, to catch old great fighters at the right time.

    Why not fight the current fighters in your own weightclass ?
    .

    I say bravo to this statement. Always trying to take out the old dogs and not having enough balls to take on the up and comers. They always use the notion well wait until the fighter's get a bit more expierence and then it will be a great fight. Nine times out of ten it's B.S. Let's see the newcomers fight now then decide were they go from there. Marquez is a lightweight and a blown up one at that. Khan is still growing and he probably walks around at about 147. Khan should pick fight's with other biggies in the weight class why not the Khanqueror Bredis Prescott for a huge rematch in England?
    He might not be a natural lightweight, but he still ko'd both Casamayor and Diaz who are both definite lightweights. I'm failing to see how only me and Fenster seem to think this fight would be 50/50. Everyone must really rate Khan.

    My belief it wasn't as much of the weight but simply boxing prowness. Casamayor was just not the same anymore and Marquez simply beat a tired fighter.( I take nothing away from Marquez great fight). Diaz although being an intelligent guy outside the ring he doesn't fight with the same ring smarts. Remember Marquez had a very tough time with the attacking of Diaz early in the fight. Again Diaz tired and Marquez just landed with pinpoint accuracy. The second fight however I think Diaz was trying to be a little smarter and tried to box with Marquez and that is just a no-no in boxing. Never box with a boxer,never punch with a puncher.

    I don't think Khan is that good to be honest I just think he has the faster hands and he is naturally bigger. It is a fight that simple should not be made when there are some many other options in each weight class. I would much rather see Marquez vs Katsidis.
    Regardless, he still beat two of the best lightweights, and there is no way in hell Khan can take the same amount of punishment as Diaz did. Like you said, Marquez is very accurate, and Khan doesn't respond well to being hit. That's why it's a 50-50 fight imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Me being a JMM fan i don't want to see the fight, JMM is far too small. I mean he's pushing his luck at Lightweight, i'd rather him just stay where he is. Im sick of fighters having to move up and down. JMM has plenty of challenges in his own weightclass, and so does Amir Khan.
    Yeah but if fighters never moved up or down we wouldn't have seen Hatton headbutting a turnbuckle, norr would we be even talking about a potential Mayweather - Pacquiao fight.

    I don't see the worry with Marquez fighting Khan. At 135 he knocked out two of the best fighters. It only looked a struggle because he didn't box. Khan only moved up to 140 for a title shot. It's not like he was too big for the weight. Marquez doesn't have to come in at 140. He can give away 3 or 4 pounds and it won't really matter. Marquez ios more than capable of knocking Khan out. Even at 147 he landed clean on Mayweather. If he lands on Khan like that, it's lights out.

    At the end of the day it's night, and Marquez is the best fighter at 135. Khan apparently is nowhere near the best fighter at 140. I fail to see how you see Marquez as being too small to compete with Khan.
    Look i know you and Bilbo like Amir Khan, and me debating whether or not JMM should move up, isn't going to change your mind. All im saying is that Amir Khan has all the physical advantages with big reach and height advantages.

    Aswell as the age factor and the fact that JMM, only moved to Lightweight to chase Manny Pacquiao. In truth he was at his best at Featherweight.

    I really fail to see how this would be much different to the MAB fight, yes of course JMM is fresher than MAB and is rated higher.

    But as i said with the physical advantages, it really isn't a fair fight. JMM has plenty of fights at Lightweight which i would like to see.

    Ali Funeka
    Robert Guerrero
    Humberto Soto
    Michael Katsidis

    And Amir Khan has.

    Timothy Bradley
    Devon Alexander
    Marcos Rene Maidana
    Joan Guzman
    Victor Ortiz

    Im just sick of all this matchmaking all the time, to catch old great fighters at the right time.

    Why not fight the current fighters in your own weightclass ?
    .

    I say bravo to this statement. Always trying to take out the old dogs and not having enough balls to take on the up and comers. They always use the notion well wait until the fighter's get a bit more expierence and then it will be a great fight. Nine times out of ten it's B.S. Let's see the newcomers fight now then decide were they go from there. Marquez is a lightweight and a blown up one at that. Khan is still growing and he probably walks around at about 147. Khan should pick fight's with other biggies in the weight class why not the Khanqueror Bredis Prescott for a huge rematch in England?
    He might not be a natural lightweight, but he still ko'd both Casamayor and Diaz who are both definite lightweights. I'm failing to see how only me and Fenster seem to think this fight would be 50/50. Everyone must really rate Khan.

    My belief it wasn't as much of the weight but simply boxing prowness. Casamayor was just not the same anymore and Marquez simply beat a tired fighter.( I take nothing away from Marquez great fight). Diaz although being an intelligent guy outside the ring he doesn't fight with the same ring smarts. Remember Marquez had a very tough time with the attacking of Diaz early in the fight. Again Diaz tired and Marquez just landed with pinpoint accuracy. The second fight however I think Diaz was trying to be a little smarter and tried to box with Marquez and that is just a no-no in boxing. Never box with a boxer,never punch with a puncher.

    I don't think Khan is that good to be honest I just think he has the faster hands and he is naturally bigger. It is a fight that simple should not be made when there are some many other options in each weight class. I would much rather see Marquez vs Katsidis.
    Regardless, he still beat two of the best lightweights, and there is no way in hell Khan can take the same amount of punishment as Diaz did. Like you said, Marquez is very accurate, and Khan doesn't respond well to being hit. That's why it's a 50-50 fight imo.
    You could be right a 50/50 fight I am not denying that and Marquez is my favorite fighter right now. It is just a fight that I really could care less about. Stylewise. There are many other options for each fighter in their respective weight classes.

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    I can still remember 10 minutes ago when khan was looking up at the celing against pretty much a nobody and everyone was shitting on the guy, now i blink and he's a top guy in his division cause he beat paulie m a guy who couldn't test the one thing we all were questioning about the guy. I don't think he deserved all the flack he caught but at the same time and this is just my opinion he deserves absolutley no where near the credit he's been getting. I don't really see him at this point anyway beating any of the guys mentioned. Once this guy get's hit, i think there are going to be a lot of disappointed people. I wish him well, but beating paulie and salita has not changed my mind about the guy at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I can still remember 10 minutes ago when khan was looking up at the celing against pretty much a nobody and everyone was shitting on the guy, now i blink and he's a top guy in his division cause he beat paulie m a guy who couldn't test the one thing we all were questioning about the guy. I don't think he deserved all the flack he caught but at the same time and this is just my opinion he deserves absolutley no where near the credit he's been getting. I don't really see him at this point anyway beating any of the guys mentioned. Once this guy get's hit, i think there are going to be a lot of disappointed people. I wish him well, but beating paulie and salita has not changed my mind about the guy at all.
    He isn't getting any credit. None whatsoever.
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