Teddy Atlas

**amat** · 08-07-2010 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

**holmcall** · 08-07-2010 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

Obviusly, I 'd know alot more than you. It does matter where you are from. WTF was he "rebellinhg" against? His old man's income as a doctot? His middle class upbrining? And f--k his scar and that broken bottle bullspily. I'd say he has gone through his fair share of self-induced bullshite.

**ElTerribleMorales** · 08-07-2010 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

Obviusly, I 'd know alot more than you. It does matter where you are from. WTF was he "rebellinhg" against? His old man's income as a doctot? His middle class upbrining? And f--k his scar and that broken bottle bullspily. I'd say he has gone through his fair share of self-induced bullshite.

his dad also did a lot of free work, so it's not like he was making tons of money, although i doubt that the family was broke, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that someone can't have a tough upbringing just because of their family's financial income

**holmcall** · 08-08-2010 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

Obviusly, I 'd know alot more than you. It does matter where you are from. WTF was he "rebellinhg" against? His old man's income as a doctot? His middle class upbrining? And f--k his scar and that broken bottle bullspily. I'd say he has gone through his fair share of self-induced bullshite.

his dad also did a lot of free work, so it's not like he was making tons of money, although i doubt that the family was broke, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that someone can't have a tough upbringing just because of their family's financial income

I disagree with all due respect. I have stated my opinion--and that's all it is--an opinion or viewpoint, but it's based on some degree of knowledge. To call it ridiculous means those who have an alternative view on Atlas,need to keep it to themselves. I don't think that's the way it should work.

But yes, it is possible to have a "tough upringing" despite financial comfort, but not very often to the point where you write a book about it and praise the likes of scumbag rat Sammy the Bull. Also, the thing about what he did to Tyson with the gun has taken on mythical stature. So has his scar which I am sure plastic surgery could remove. There is just too much tough guy stuff in his personna to convince me that he was and is a true tough guy. In my world, the real tough guys don't talk about it all the time.

On the other side of the ledger is the good stuff he has done for charities and for the way he worked with some of his lesser known fighters like The Shamrock Express and the Heat. That Teddy I respect. He also can be an inspirational speaker as he has for pro football teams..

So there is a balance here that I choose to look at. Again, he breaks down fights extremely well. He calls out a fighter's weakness very astutley, he is a solid trainer with documented success, and he has a true passion for boxing. That's why I watch FNF's.

**ElTerribleMorales** · 08-08-2010 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

Obviusly, I 'd know alot more than you. It does matter where you are from. WTF was he "rebellinhg" against? His old man's income as a doctot? His middle class upbrining? And f--k his scar and that broken bottle bullspily. I'd say he has gone through his fair share of self-induced bullshite.

his dad also did a lot of free work, so it's not like he was making tons of money, although i doubt that the family was broke, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that someone can't have a tough upbringing just because of their family's financial income

I disagree with all due respect. I have stated my opinion--and that's all it is--an opinion or viewpoint, but it's based on some degree of knowledge. To call it ridiculous means those who have an alternative view on Atlas,need to keep it to themselves. I don't think that's the way it should work.

But yes, it is possible to have a "tough upringing" despite financial comfort, but not very often to the point where you write a book about it and praise the likes of scumbag rat Sammy the Bull. Also, the thing about what he did to Tyson with the gun has taken on mythical stature. So has his scar which I am sure plastic surgery could remove. There is just too much tough guy stuff in his personna to convince me that he was and is a true tough guy. In my world, the real tough guys don't talk about it all the time.

On the other side of the ledger is the good stuff he has done for charities and for the way he worked with some of his lesser known fighters like The Shamrock Express and the Heat. That Teddy I respect. He also can be an inspirational speaker as he has for pro football teams..

So there is a balance here that I choose to look at. Again, he breaks down fights extremely well. He calls out a fighter's weakness very astutley, he is a solid trainer with documented success, and he has a true passion for boxing. That's why I watch FNF's.

i didn't mean only Atlas, i meant in general, it is pretty absurd and ignorant to think people can't have a tough upbringing despite not being in poverty

**holmcall** · 08-08-2010 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by holmcall

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by holmcall

For a guy whose dad was a Doctor, he makes it sem like he grew up in the gutter. Give me abreak here. He may well have been a spoiled little pratt when he was young. Staten Island is not exactly Bed-Sty or Newark. Also, that crap in his book about Sammy the Bull was bile-inducing garbage.

Could be he is a tough guy wannabe. But I do think he knows boxing and can break down a fight very well.

WTF! What would you know? It doesn't matter where you're from, if you rebel against that and you hang out in the gutter then you are in the gutter. He has 2 felonies on his record, his brother killed his grandmother in his own house, he has a GIANT scar on his face from being stabbed with a broken fucking bottle, I'd say he has gone through his fair share of shit.

Teddy isn't a fulltime trainer but he knows boxing really well and I really like him and there's a reason people hwo actually come across him in boxing always respect him. There is a method to his madness and he definitely knows what he is talking about.

Obviusly, I 'd know alot more than you. It does matter where you are from. WTF was he "rebellinhg" against? His old man's income as a doctot? His middle class upbrining? And f--k his scar and that broken bottle bullspily. I'd say he has gone through his fair share of self-induced bullshite.

his dad also did a lot of free work, so it's not like he was making tons of money, although i doubt that the family was broke, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that someone can't have a tough upbringing just because of their family's financial income

I disagree with all due respect. I have stated my opinion--and that's all it is--an opinion or viewpoint, but it's based on some degree of knowledge. To call it ridiculous means those who have an alternative view on Atlas,need to keep it to themselves. I don't think that's the way it should work.

But yes, it is possible to have a "tough upringing" despite financial comfort, but not very often to the point where you write a book about it and praise the likes of scumbag rat Sammy the Bull. Also, the thing about what he did to Tyson with the gun has taken on mythical stature. So has his scar which I am sure plastic surgery could remove. There is just too much tough guy stuff in his personna to convince me that he was and is a true tough guy. In my world, the real tough guys don't talk about it all the time.

On the other side of the ledger is the good stuff he has done for charities and for the way he worked with some of his lesser known fighters like The Shamrock Express and the Heat. That Teddy I respect. He also can be an inspirational speaker as he has for pro football teams..

So there is a balance here that I choose to look at. Again, he breaks down fights extremely well. He calls out a fighter's weakness very astutley, he is a solid trainer with documented success, and he has a true passion for boxing. That's why I watch FNF's.

i didn't mean only Atlas, i meant in general, it is pretty absurd and ignorant to think people can't have a tough upbringing despite not being in poverty

You have put new words in there. "tough upbringing despite not being in poverty" is diffrent from growing up as a doctor's son. I agree with your "new" statement, but not as it applys to Teddy.

Have a great night.

**ElTerribleMorales** · 08-08-2010 04:10 AM