Devon Alexander vs Andriy Kotelnik My Scorecard

[BoxingGorilla]

I didn't score the fight. I wished I had, but Harold Lederman was making me sick with his shitty scorecard.

I haven't been this upset with Lederman since Barrera-Marquez. He scored it 114-113 for Barrera.

[blegit]

I didn't score the fight but I definitely thought the fight was close but should have went to Kotelnyk because he was accurate and more effective. Lederman was scoring horribly and was even justifying it with bullcrap lines. Alexander was throwing very predictable 1-2s and Kotelnyk found him all night. Before this fight I only saw Alexander fight twice so I didn't want to express how overrated I thought he was but after this fight I am getting very convinced at how predictable and one dimensional Alexander is. He has minimal if any adjustments. And I also thought that Johnson/Cloud was an either way fight not an 8-4 fight by far.

[Mar]

Another case where a fight is judged by perception, not by what actually lands. I would love to have harrold over my crib and go over this fight round by round and have him justify what he saw. I wanna jump on and bash the guy too, but sitting ringside maybe he was seeing something we just didn't see on t.v. Harrold isn't the first person to come up with a retarded scorecard in a fight so i just wonder......I always like to go back over fights with the sound down and judge it round by round not the fight as a whole and see what i get. Gotta do that tonight. I really don't see anyway i'll come up with devon winning that fight but we'll see. There are set rules in boxing, and people like max k sayin he judges fights by who he'd rather be instead of punches landed is the problem. Same with tarver giving people rounds just because they landed one or two big punches. Reguardless of if we like it or not a guy touching the other 20 times in a round shouldn't be overlooked just cause he gets wobbled by one or two punches. This is boxing no KO'ing. It's not the more exciting fighter is the guy who lands more effectively who should be given the nod. This almost never happens though....Sucks for kotelnik, but like every fighter he knew his chance of winning a decision that night.

[Nameless]

Get the fight on my computer for 2 hours now, will give it a look and share my impressions with ya afterward but as I see it at the moment, it seems like that the general consent here is that Kotelnik should have had the nudge.

[CFH]

Another case where a fight is judged by perception, not by what actually lands. I would love to have harrold over my crib and go over this fight round by round and have him justify what he saw. I wanna jump on and bash the guy too, but sitting ringside maybe he was seeing something we just didn't see on t.v. Harrold isn't the first person to come up with a retarded scorecard in a fight so i just wonder......I always like to go back over fights with the sound down and judge it round by round not the fight as a whole and see what i get. Gotta do that tonight. I really don't see anyway i'll come up with devon winning that fight but we'll see. There are set rules in boxing, and people like max k sayin he judges fights by who he'd rather be instead of punches landed is the problem. Same with tarver giving people rounds just because they landed one or two big punches. Reguardless of if we like it or not a guy touching the other 20 times in a round shouldn't be overlooked just cause he gets wobbled by one or two punches. This is boxing no KO'ing. It's not the more exciting fighter is the guy who lands more effectively who should be given the nod. This almost never happens though....Sucks for kotelnik, but like every fighter he knew his chance of winning a decision that night.

My problem with that theory is that the unofficial judges (be it Ledderman or whoever) scoring the fight almost always score it for the house fighter or the favorite. I'd be inclined to think it was nothing more than differences in perception if the underdog or the non-HBO/non-cash cow fighter (in this case) was up on the unofficial card every once in a while, but that almost never seems to happen.

[J_C]

I had it 7-5 Kotelnik. There was a TON of close rounds that I could see how they could go either way though. Every round 2nd-8th was a pick em imo (bar the 6th which Kotelnik took). On clear cut rounds I had it 4-1 Kotelnik and the other 7 rounds were just what you like really. I guess the judges scored every single one of the close ones for Alexander. I can see a draw but Alexander never deserved to win and in reality I think Kotelnik deserved the nod.

Round 1 Alexander won. Rounds 6,9,10,12 were Kotelniks. The rest were v close, generally a case of a massive disparity between mass activity against cleaner punching.

[gest12645]

It seems like the general consensus is that Kotelnik won 115-113. I had it that way too

[AirJordanIV]

I had Kotelnik up. He landed everything he threw. I take Bradley, Khan, Ortiz, or Maidana over Alexander. This may seem hasty. Devon has absolutely no head movement. Kotelnik was fun to watch.

[boxingbantz]

Just watched the fight again at work on my ipod and I had it 115-113 Kotelnik.I have no idea how Lederman had it 9-3 to Alexander. Absolutely staggering conclusion imo. He may have thrown a lot more punches most of his shots were blocked or simply were just punching air. Kotelnik landed a lot more than Devon did and snapped his head back a lot more. The unnamimous decision was shocking. Kotelnik looked gutted, he really thought he'd won.

[JonnyFolds]

I didn't score the fight. I wished I had, but Harold Lederman was making me sick with his shitty scorecard.

I haven't been this upset with Lederman since Barrera-Marquez. He scored it 114-113 for Barrera.

God what a horribly scored fight (Lederman). I was going berzerk! Awesome fight too