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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far
    Chavez Jr. is only 24 years old though and he's only just starting to refine his game. It's not like he's 32 and still fighting bums. To me, the number of fights he has had is less important and less indicative of his potential as a fighter than his age and development.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    i really hope this fight happens cause i want to see chavez jr. graduate with honors! i think cotto is going to take the first part of the fight with straight A's but then chavez jr. is going to get busy and make cotto run (just like in the margarito fight). cotto is going to be so frustrated that he can't hurt chavez jr. and revert to backing up while losing steam. chavez jr. will dominate the 10th round and beyond. whether he KO's cotto will determine the outcome cause i think chavez jr. is going to need a KO to beat cotto. like ive said before, cotto's punch resistance is not the same. i seriously do not believe cotto's going to be able to withstand the kind of punches john duddy withstood. chavez jr. by late TKO!

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far
    Chavez Jr. is only 24 years old though and he's only just starting to refine his game. It's not like he's 32 and still fighting bums. To me, the number of fights he has had is less important and less indicative of his potential as a fighter than his age and development.
    Vazquez was 21 when he first picked up boxing, turned pro at 22, and is a world champion looking to unify at 26, so he went from no experience to world champ in 5 years, whats Chavez Jr's excuse?

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    terrible,

    all boxers are not the same. i think julito's body was too big for him and he is just now maturing into it. some are more coordinated than others. but that doesn't mean julito won't be able to beat cotto. like they say, anything can happen in boxing. cotto has seen his better days. everyone knows this. roach knows this that's why he wants this fight for julito. cotto might still be an offensive machine but i serioiusly doubt he'll be able to hurt the much bigger, younger julito. on the other hands, julito does hit hard. that cannot be disputed and i believe he's got a great chance to KO cotto who hasn't been the same since margarito ruined him.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far
    Chavez Jr. is only 24 years old though and he's only just starting to refine his game. It's not like he's 32 and still fighting bums. To me, the number of fights he has had is less important and less indicative of his potential as a fighter than his age and development.
    Vazquez was 21 when he first picked up boxing, turned pro at 22, and is a world champion looking to unify at 26, so he went from no experience to world champ in 5 years, whats Chavez Jr's excuse?
    So because Vazquez Jr. developed rapidly in an almost unheard of manner Chavez Jr. is expected to do the same? That's a ridiculous argument. The kid is 24 years old, he's showing a lot of promise under Freddy Roach, and he' steadily increasing his level of opposition. I don't understand what else he could do.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    CFH,

    imo, the reason why these cotto fans are seriously degrading chavez jr.'s chances is because they can smell an upset.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    CFH,

    imo, the reason why these cotto fans are seriously degrading chavez jr.'s chances is because they can smell an upset.
    I don't know about that, I think Cotto will probably beat him. However, I think Chavez is developing well for a fighter with no amateur experience and I also think that most of ths shit he takes is a result of his father. He's never going to be JCC, an all-time great, but it doesn't mean he's a bad fighter and it doesn't mean he can't develop into a legitimate title challenger, and he should be given the opportunity to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far
    Chavez Jr. is only 24 years old though and he's only just starting to refine his game. It's not like he's 32 and still fighting bums. To me, the number of fights he has had is less important and less indicative of his potential as a fighter than his age and development.
    Vazquez was 21 when he first picked up boxing, turned pro at 22, and is a world champion looking to unify at 26, so he went from no experience to world champ in 5 years, whats Chavez Jr's excuse?
    So because Vazquez Jr. developed rapidly in an almost unheard of manner Chavez Jr. is expected to do the same? That's a ridiculous argument. The kid is 24 years old, he's showing a lot of promise under Freddy Roach, and he' steadily increasing his level of opposition. I don't understand what else he could do.
    he's been a pro for 7 goddamn years, he should of been facing guys at a world level ages ago, it's not only Vazquez Jr, there have been plenty of guys with little to no amateur experience who have stepped it up a lot sooner than Chavez Jr, as for an upset there will be no upset, seeing how Chavez doesn't make it to the final bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    read my post on Vazquez Jr., that excuse can only go so far
    Chavez Jr. is only 24 years old though and he's only just starting to refine his game. It's not like he's 32 and still fighting bums. To me, the number of fights he has had is less important and less indicative of his potential as a fighter than his age and development.
    Vazquez was 21 when he first picked up boxing, turned pro at 22, and is a world champion looking to unify at 26, so he went from no experience to world champ in 5 years, whats Chavez Jr's excuse?
    So because Vazquez Jr. developed rapidly in an almost unheard of manner Chavez Jr. is expected to do the same? That's a ridiculous argument. The kid is 24 years old, he's showing a lot of promise under Freddy Roach, and he' steadily increasing his level of opposition. I don't understand what else he could do.
    he's been a pro for 7 goddamn years, he should of been facing guys at a world level ages ago, it's not only Vazquez Jr, there have been plenty of guys with little to no amateur experience who have stepped it up a lot sooner than Chavez Jr, as for an upset there will be no upset, seeing how Chavez doesn't make it to the final bell
    It doesn't matter how long he has been a pro for because he is still so young and it doesn't matter what anybody else does or has done, other fighters have different skill-sets, they develop differently, and they might just flat out be better than Chavez. He clearly wasn't ready to step up in class before and so he did not. He's only now starting to develop as a fighter, why ruin him by having him fight guys who will beat him just to appease fickle fans who are going to berate him unless he somehow surpassed his father (which is impossible).

    Again, he is 24 years old, it's not like he's pushing 30. There is a ton of time for him to round out his game and to step up his level of opposition, which he is doing by taking on a faded Cotto.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    It's just dawned on me why people like his dad had 100+ fights, there wasn't really an amatuer scene back then, so every fight was on your record.

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    Default Re: Chavez Jr. pulls out of Wolak fight to challenge Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Chavez jr has had 41 fights and is now 24 years of age, that is one long initiation into the world of boxing. He isn't a kid anymore, and if he is to prove he is half the fighter his father was then now is the time to do it. Cotto may no longer be at his best, he has had some wars, but he is still one helluva fighter and Chavez jr will soon know about what a step up in class is all about!
    He had no amateur career, I think his trajectory is understandable.
    I agree, that's why he has to take this fight. He's been a pro for 7 years, averaging 6 fights a year, he's 24 yrs old and should be at his peak of fitness and he has enough ring experience now to take on someone like Cotto. Does he have the abilitiy to win? That is the unanswered question.

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