Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

[0james0]

Out of interest, what do people make of boxrec pfp rankings?

They use a points based system, giving points based on the difficulty of the opponent and then adding or subtracting the appropriate points. Kind of how I think a pfp list should be done.

their list is currently this:

1
Floyd Mayweather Jrwelterweight2
Manny Pacquiaowelterweight3
Wladimir Klitschkoheavyweight4
Bernard Hopkinslight heavyweight5
Vitali Klitschkoheavyweight6
Juan Manuel Marquezlightweight7
Paul Williamslight middleweight8
Shane Mosleywelterweight9
Lucian Butesuper middleweight10
Timothy Bradleylight welterweight11
Juan Manuel Lopezfeatherweight12
Chris Johnfeatherweight13
Andre Dirrellsuper middleweight14
Jean Pascallight heavyweight15
Fernando Montielbantamweight16
Sergio Gabriel Martinezmiddleweight17
Miguel Angel Cottolight middleweight18
David Hayeheavyweight19
Amir Khanlight welterweight20
Antonio Margaritolight middleweight

[El Kabong]

No way Sergio Martinez is that low

[skel1983]

Out of interest, what do people make of boxrec pfp rankings?

They use a points based system, giving points based on the difficulty of the opponent and then adding or subtracting the appropriate points. Kind of how I think a pfp list should be done.

their list is currently this:

1
Floyd Mayweather Jrwelterweight2
Manny Pacquiaowelterweight3
Wladimir Klitschkoheavyweight4
Bernard Hopkinslight heavyweight5
Vitali Klitschkoheavyweight6
Juan Manuel Marquezlightweight7
Paul Williamslight middleweight8
Shane Mosleywelterweight9
Lucian Butesuper middleweight10
Timothy Bradleylight welterweight11
Juan Manuel Lopezfeatherweight12
Chris Johnfeatherweight13
Andre Dirrellsuper middleweight14
Jean Pascallight heavyweight15
Fernando Montielbantamweight16
Sergio Gabriel Martinezmiddleweight17
Miguel Angel Cottolight middleweight18
David Hayeheavyweight19
Amir Khanlight welterweight20
Antonio Margaritolight middleweight

Boxrec rankings are the biggest joke going mate, after CFH opened the Collazo thread I had a little look to see when Sergiy Dzinziruk was fighting Mayorgo after Collazo didn't fancy it and Boxrec have him ranked at 24 at 154!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TWENTY FUCKING FOUR LMAO just one ahead of our world class British champion Sam Webb lol.

[armin]

Yeah got to agree boxrec rankings are basically a joke and whatever points system they have is insane for the most part.

[Kev]

Completely overdue imo, the guy has dominated the heavyweight scene for the last 4 or so years.

I know some purists dont like having heavyweights ranked p4p but I really disagree. I think it's important for ALL boxers to be eligable for the p4p rankings. I don't really see them as a 'who would win if all every fighter was the same size' type nonsense, I just see them as who are the top 10 best fighters across all weight classes right now, and clearly Wlad has dominated the heavyweight weight class for pretty much longer than any other fighter has dominated their own, so it's a bit nonsensical to just pretend he doesn't exist because he's a heavyweight.

I mean if heavyweights are going to feature on the all time rankings how can they not feature in the current rankings, that makes no logical sense to me at all.

[amat]

Out of interest, what do people make of boxrec pfp rankings?

They use a points based system, giving points based on the difficulty of the opponent and then adding or subtracting the appropriate points. Kind of how I think a pfp list should be done.

their list is currently this:

1
Floyd Mayweather Jrwelterweight2
Manny Pacquiaowelterweight3
Wladimir Klitschkoheavyweight4
Bernard Hopkinslight heavyweight5
Vitali Klitschkoheavyweight6
Juan Manuel Marquezlightweight7
Paul Williamslight middleweight8
Shane Mosleywelterweight9
Lucian Butesuper middleweight10
Timothy Bradleylight welterweight11
Juan Manuel Lopezfeatherweight12
Chris Johnfeatherweight13
Andre Dirrellsuper middleweight14
Jean Pascallight heavyweight15
Fernando Montielbantamweight16
Sergio Gabriel Martinezmiddleweight17
Miguel Angel Cottolight middleweight18
David Hayeheavyweight19
Amir Khanlight welterweight20
Antonio Margaritolight middleweight

I think that's the opposite of how a P4P list should be done, none of that takes into account how a guy actually looks when he gets into the ring.

[amat]

Also I think Fenster has hit the nail on the head here. It's not discrediting Wlad but it's hard to say he's a pound for pound guy when he's the biggest guy in the heavyweight division aside from his stupid brother. I'm a fan of Wlad (the 2005 version of amat wants to fight me now) but he's the biggest guy in the division. Look at his fights with Chambers and Sultan, all he did was use his size advantages and against Sultan he held on whenever Sultan got closer then 15 feet. Bradley fights guys that are his size, how he isn't in the top 10 but Hopkins is is a joke in my opinion. Wlad is a great heavyweight fighter but I'll hold off on the P4P talk.

If David Haye or Tomas Adamek did what Wlad did then it would be a different story.