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    If it's true, I only hope he won't get injured seriously before finally calling it a day.
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    No I don't think he'll return. I think what's most likely is a nassem hamid situation. Lot's of talk about it but the comeback never actually materializing.

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    I hope he doesn't.

    Infact, I know he won't ever be able to make Welter again, so he simply won't be able to some bacl.

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    I don't see what good can come out of hatton coming back...but if he does khan would be a pretty good opponet. I don't see how people are so high on khan I'd give anyone that can hit harder than an 7th grader a fair shot against the guy...till i've seen him prove otherwise. I'm on the fence with khan his loss may have been a fluke...or it may not have. But going from looking up at the ceiling aganist prescott to now he's a top guy at 140 for beating salita, and paulie is misleading , but smart on his part. I wanna see him in with one of these guys and see what happens when a maidana, or ortiz hit's him back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Over the weekend i heard a strong rumour that Ricky Hatton is planning a comeback for next year, he is looking at a fight with Amir Khan. He has re-applied to the board for his boxing licence, which indicates he does plan on carring on fighting. Things in the Hatton camp are apparently far from good in regards to the relationship with his management team.

    So should he make a comeback or not, and if so where does he go with his career ?


    I have a good feeling what most will say on here, but what the heck lets hear it anyway
    I'm not sure he's going to come back now. If I was him I think I'd be tempted to have one last farewell fight against an OK fighter in Manchester MEN arena. Don't know how he's going to shift 3 stones of lard though and not sure he now has the motivation.
    Fighting Amir Khan now would be a bad move. A couple of years ago I'd have taken Hatton over Khan - now I think Amir would be a strong favourite.
    I don't mind if Ricky retires now - I'd enjoy watching him fight again but I'd hate to see him getting KO'd by fighters he'd have destroyed before.

    There does seem to be a bit of self-delusion going on with Hatton these days though. I saw him say in an interview on TV a while ago that he was winning the 2nd round against Pacman before he got sparked. He mustn't have watched the tape back (and I don't blame him!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    No I don't think he'll return. I think what's most likely is a nassem hamid situation. Lot's of talk about it but the comeback never actually materializing.
    ....and this is a British fighter you're speaking of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    No I don't think he'll return. I think what's most likely is a nassem hamid situation. Lot's of talk about it but the comeback never actually materializing.
    ....and this is a British fighter you're speaking of?

    Donuts!!

    And now I'm talking about an american fighter

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    It's not as though he hasn't shifted a shit load of weight before to make 140, but he is older now and has had a long layoff and though he could probably make weight again it might just take a lot out of him. He should really take on someone that he can easily beat before getting in with Khan to get a bit of ring time in because the last thing I want to see is Khan beating him to a pulp.

    As far as Roach knowing the blueprint to beating Hatton, yes he does, WHEN he's got Manny Pacquiao to execute the plan for him. Khan is getting better no doubt but he is not and never will be of the calibre of the Pacman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    No I don't think he'll return. I think what's most likely is a nassem hamid situation. Lot's of talk about it but the comeback never actually materializing.
    ....and this is a British fighter you're speaking of?

    Donuts!!

    And now I'm talking about an american fighter
    For a few American heavyweights you won't get any argument from me...but hell it's the law of averages, we can't run every division all the time...we'll come back around pretty soon....you just had to think of something truly American didn't you, you knew if you said "Pints and Chips" we'd still be talking about a British fighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    No I don't think he'll return. I think what's most likely is a nassem hamid situation. Lot's of talk about it but the comeback never actually materializing.
    ....and this is a British fighter you're speaking of?

    Donuts!!

    And now I'm talking about an american fighter
    For a few American heavyweights you won't get any argument from me...but hell it's the law of averages, we can't run every division all the time...we'll come back around pretty soon....you just had to think of something truly American didn't you, you knew if you said "Pints and Chips" we'd still be talking about a British fighter
    not really. Pints and chips refers to Ricky Hatton. And the whole point of this thread is he's not fighting anymore. So no that doesn't apply to a current british fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    not really. Pints and chips refers to Ricky Hatton. And the whole point of this thread is he's not fighting anymore. So no that doesn't apply to a current british fighter.
    Well it "best" refers to Ricky, but I'm sure we could find another Brit that's a little heavier than they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    not really. Pints and chips refers to Ricky Hatton. And the whole point of this thread is he's not fighting anymore. So no that doesn't apply to a current british fighter.
    Well it "best" refers to Ricky, but I'm sure we could find another Brit that's a little heavier than they should be.
    Carl Baker spring to mind as soon as I read this post. What a mess lol.

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    I don't see what good can come out of hatton coming back...but if he does khan would be a pretty good opponet. I don't see how people are so high on khan I'd give anyone that can hit harder than an 7th grader a fair shot against the guy...till i've seen him prove otherwise. I'm on the fence with khan his loss may have been a fluke...or it may not have. But going from looking up at the ceiling aganist prescott to now he's a top guy at 140 for beating salita, and paulie is misleading , but smart on his part. I wanna see him in with one of these guys and see what happens when a maidana, or ortiz hit's him back
    Not really. He beat Paulie better than Hatton and Cotto did, and that was a Paulie who was coming off his two best performances. He also beat Kotelnik, which didn't count for much until he practically beat Alexander, plus he beat Maidana (albeit in a very close fight). I take you're point about him being in with somebody like Maidana. I don't take your point about him being in with Ortiz. Khan made Ortiz quit on his stool in the amatuers. He'd have no qualsm about doing it again. It's not like Ortiz is mentally strong enough to erase that memory and put the beat down on Khan.

    He's near the very top at 140, because only Bradley is better than him. So that means either a) - 140 isn't that good, or b) - Khan is actually good.
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    I don't see what good can come out of hatton coming back...but if he does khan would be a pretty good opponet. I don't see how people are so high on khan I'd give anyone that can hit harder than an 7th grader a fair shot against the guy...till i've seen him prove otherwise. I'm on the fence with khan his loss may have been a fluke...or it may not have. But going from looking up at the ceiling aganist prescott to now he's a top guy at 140 for beating salita, and paulie is misleading , but smart on his part. I wanna see him in with one of these guys and see what happens when a maidana, or ortiz hit's him back
    Not really. He beat Paulie better than Hatton and Cotto did, and that was a Paulie who was coming off his two best performances. He also beat Kotelnik, which didn't count for much until he practically beat Alexander, plus he beat Maidana (albeit in a very close fight). I take you're point about him being in with somebody like Maidana. I don't take your point about him being in with Ortiz. Khan made Ortiz quit on his stool in the amatuers. He'd have no qualsm about doing it again. It's not like Ortiz is mentally strong enough to erase that memory and put the beat down on Khan.

    He's near the very top at 140, because only Bradley is better than him. So that means either a) - 140 isn't that good, or b) - Khan is actually good.
    Amir Khan is good hes got good speed, good technique, good footwork, good jab, ETC. We just want to know if he can beat a puncher, and if he can that will answer alot of questions and get more people behind him.

    I mean there has been fighters with below average chins, that have been successful. I mean for example Terry Norris didn't have a great chin, and he is considered top 3 Jr Middleweight of all time.

    Now Amir Khan isn't on his level, but what im saying is despite that weakness. Terry Norris improved and took risks to show he improved, by facing dangerous punchers like John Mugabi.

    And Amir Khan has too do the same, beating Paulie Malignaggi is all well and good. And it was a decent win as was his win over Andriy Kotelnik. But that too me isn't answering the question's i need to know.

    I thought he'd beat both of them infact i stated before the Paulie Malignaggi fight, that he would dominate him because he's too big. And he will walk right through Paulie Malignaggi's feather dusters.

    I'd like to see if Amir Khan can hold it together, against a pressure fighter who packs a punch. Aka Prescott, Maidana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    I don't see what good can come out of hatton coming back...but if he does khan would be a pretty good opponet. I don't see how people are so high on khan I'd give anyone that can hit harder than an 7th grader a fair shot against the guy...till i've seen him prove otherwise. I'm on the fence with khan his loss may have been a fluke...or it may not have. But going from looking up at the ceiling aganist prescott to now he's a top guy at 140 for beating salita, and paulie is misleading , but smart on his part. I wanna see him in with one of these guys and see what happens when a maidana, or ortiz hit's him back
    Not really. He beat Paulie better than Hatton and Cotto did, and that was a Paulie who was coming off his two best performances. He also beat Kotelnik, which didn't count for much until he practically beat Alexander, plus he beat Maidana (albeit in a very close fight). I take you're point about him being in with somebody like Maidana. I don't take your point about him being in with Ortiz. Khan made Ortiz quit on his stool in the amatuers. He'd have no qualsm about doing it again. It's not like Ortiz is mentally strong enough to erase that memory and put the beat down on Khan.

    He's near the very top at 140, because only Bradley is better than him. So that means either a) - 140 isn't that good, or b) - Khan is actually good.
    Amir Khan is good hes got good speed, good technique, good footwork, good jab, ETC. We just want to know if he can beat a puncher, and if he can that will answer alot of questions and get more people behind him.

    I mean there has been fighters with below average chins, that have been successful. I mean for example Terry Norris didn't have a great chin, and he is considered top 3 Jr Middleweight of all time.

    Now Amir Khan isn't on his level, but what im saying is despite that weakness. Terry Norris improved and took risks to show he improved, by facing dangerous punchers like John Mugabi.

    And Amir Khan has too do the same, beating Paulie Malignaggi is all well and good. And it was a decent win as was his win over Andriy Kotelnik. But that too me isn't answering the question's i need to know.

    I thought he'd beat both of them infact i stated before the Paulie Malignaggi fight, that he would dominate him because he's too big. And he will walk right through Paulie Malignaggi's feather dusters.

    I'd like to see if Amir Khan can hold it together, against a pressure fighter who packs a punch. Aka Prescott, Maidana.
    I agree mate, although i don't necessarily think beating a puncher will prove that much. 9 times out of 10 he beats Prescott. Trouble is, he has a weak chin, so what happened against Prescott could theoretically happen at any point against pretty much any fighter. If he were to beat Maidana, it would just say to me 'he beat that particular puncher'. And we all know he's capable of that anyway, or at least he has the skills to do so.

    So to me, beating a puncher doesn't really prove anything, unless he takes some very solid shots clean on the chin and walks through them. Because if that were to happen, you could assume that the he might have just been tight at 135. And let's be honest, that isn't going to happen. If he beat somebody like Maidana, he would do it through boxing and not taking chances. IMO beating Maidana doesn't make it any more likely that he'll beat the next feared puncher (whoever that might be). The chin will always be a problem. Prescott was lucky enough to land. Whoever else is lucky enough to land will probably do the same thing.

    That's why i can't blame him for making his money now. It'll be a good year or so until he goes in with somebody with good power at 140, and you can't blame him, because another knockout loss means it's pretty much over.

    It's a shame, because like you say, he's got a lot going for him talent wise.
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