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    Default Re: Sign of being weight drained?

    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)
    Yeah the fighter in the fight I was watching displayed those signs. Albeit he was fighting a very good opponent but he too was a good fighter. There was even a short history leading up to the fight where were discussing how one fighter wasn't going to fight the other guy at 135 and demanded that it be at 130.

    What's funny is that with all the hoopla about draining fighters, this particular fighter earned his most significant victory over a fighter that in hindsight was clearly weight drained. I mean he looked like OSCAR in the pac fight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)
    Yeah the fighter in the fight I was watching displayed those signs. Albeit he was fighting a very good opponent but he too was a good fighter. There was even a short history leading up to the fight where were discussing how one fighter wasn't going to fight the other guy at 135 and demanded that it be at 130.

    What's funny is that with all the hoopla about draining fighters, this particular fighter earned his most significant victory over a fighter that in hindsight was clearly weight drained. I mean he looked like OSCAR in the pac fight...
    What fight was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)
    Yeah the fighter in the fight I was watching displayed those signs. Albeit he was fighting a very good opponent but he too was a good fighter. There was even a short history leading up to the fight where were discussing how one fighter wasn't going to fight the other guy at 135 and demanded that it be at 130.

    What's funny is that with all the hoopla about draining fighters, this particular fighter earned his most significant victory over a fighter that in hindsight was clearly weight drained. I mean he looked like OSCAR in the pac fight...
    What fight was it?

    Mayweather-Corrales
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)
    Yeah the fighter in the fight I was watching displayed those signs. Albeit he was fighting a very good opponent but he too was a good fighter. There was even a short history leading up to the fight where were discussing how one fighter wasn't going to fight the other guy at 135 and demanded that it be at 130.

    What's funny is that with all the hoopla about draining fighters, this particular fighter earned his most significant victory over a fighter that in hindsight was clearly weight drained. I mean he looked like OSCAR in the pac fight...
    What fight was it?

    Mayweather-Corrales
    That's the fight I thought you were referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    there's the weight gain, although sometimes it's due to lack of dedication, stamina problems in a fighter who would usually have at least decent stamina, very low punch output, pushed punches, all of the above are clear signs, there are also cases in which a fighter looks sickly (Morales in the last Pacquiao fight, and others)
    I will admit that I don't look at a lot of weigh-ins but I do remember the photos from Morales - Pacquiao 3 and Morales looked like death. I knew right there that the fight leaning in Pac's favor.

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    Default Re: Sign of being weight drained?

    i went to the 3rd morales/pacquiao fight and morales did look like he was about to drop dead from being weight drained. he also looked weight drained for their 2nd fight as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    i went to the 3rd morales/pacquiao fight and morales did look like he was about to drop dead from being weight drained. he also looked weight drained for their 2nd fight as well.
    Amazingly the two fights he lost...
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    yeah, isn't that something, morales being weight drained for those two fights. just goes to show everyone that his body was no longer responding like before and he was near the end of fighting as a contender.

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    Ricky Hatton was weight drain at 140 against the Pacman, even though he came in at 140, that's what I heard from his fans. The theory was that Hatton likes to balloon to 190 pounds between bouts and it took a lot of energy out of him to get back to 140. Anyways weight drain or not Hatton wasn't going to win even if he was allowed to come in at 147 and Pacquiao at 140.

    The talent and skill level between the 2 is huge.

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    Sunk cheeks and skin discoloration at the weigh-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Ricky Hatton was weight drain at 140 against the Pacman, even though he came in at 140, that's what I heard from his fans. The theory was that Hatton likes to balloon to 190 pounds between bouts and it took a lot of energy out of him to get back to 140. Anyways weight drain or not Hatton wasn't going to win even if he was allowed to come in at 147 and Pacquiao at 140.

    The talent and skill level between the 2 is huge.

    Thats bullshit mate Hatton was on the weight 3 weeks before the fight, the problem was he goes into his camps so early because he has all that weight to shift this time he over trained and peaked to early but like you say Hatton gets battered any weight anytime in his career.

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    I'd say 17 lbs is an awful lot to put on in 24 or so hours. The weight comes from carbohydrates and water so that's a lot of meals and a lot of fluid to put on.

    The thing is, you can't really put a cap on how much weight a fighter is allowed to put on between the weigh in and the fight, as it's detrimental to what you're trying to achieve. If the overall goal is to make the sport safer, limiting a fighter's carbohydrate and water intake isn't safe. It won't prevent fighters from being weight-drained in the first place. If a guy can still make 130 (however difficult it is), he will still do it, regardless of the fact that he may have a restriction on how much weight he can put on between the weigh-in and the fight. Limiting this is dangerous, as it increases the risk of the fighter going into the ring in a poorly nourished and dehydrated state.
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    I remember watching Kostya Tszyu weigh in before the Hatton fight, he looked drawn and gaunt and he failed the first weigh in? Unusual for Tszyu as his fitness regime has been well documented. He just didn't look right and i thought he was in trouble before the fight began, he just didn't have the strength that he usually had and the tables were turned on him. Tszyu was always the bully in his fights, not against Hatton. Weight was an issue, it also didn't help wearing your balls as earrings, but that's another story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    yeah, isn't that something, morales being weight drained for those two fights. just goes to show everyone that his body was no longer responding like before and he was near the end of fighting as a contender.
    Was he weight drained against raheem?
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