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    Default Re: Who's next for Wladimir?

    correct me if i'm wrong Lyle but I get impression you're not that keen on Haye ?

    If Haye fought 3-4 times a year there wouldn't be such a problem with the Harrison match - but thats the problem he doesn't.

    But I'm allowing him this one - this one is for the UK.

    After this if no Klit by spring then I will also turn against him
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    No I'm not fond of him. Its a number of things he has done that have irked me. To be quite honest had he just kept his mouth shut I wouldn't think any less of him than I think of Povetkin (given the way he backed out of previous matches vs the Klitschko's) ....I wouldn't mind him vs Audley at all had he not constantly been saying bullshit like "I'm gonna knock all these bums out and clean up the division and be an exciting heavyweight champion"...looking at his opponents he may be "cleaning out the division" but he's started in the basement.

    He does need to fight more often too, no reason he shouldn't have 2-4 fights a year (depending on injuries and other stuff). Whoever said he was in love with the lifestyle of a pro boxer has been 100% correct thus far.

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    Who's next ? i'd like him to fight any of these fighters.

    Alexander Povetkin
    David Haye
    Nikolai Valuev
    Tomasz Adamek
    Odlanier Solis = If he gets in shape.
    Denis Boytsov = I've heard he's decent but he's too green at the moment.
    Vitali Klitschko

    Joking aside about the Vitali Klitschko match up, there the only match ups that interest me at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    correct me if i'm wrong Lyle but I get impression you're not that keen on Haye ?

    If Haye fought 3-4 times a year there wouldn't be such a problem with the Harrison match - but thats the problem he doesn't.

    But I'm allowing him this one - this one is for the UK.

    After this if no Klit by spring then I will also turn against him
    After this fight he's got no where left to go. The reason why he's resorted to audley and a november date is because he spent so long negotiating with klit. It's all about getting it sorted round the negotiating table. I'm confident we'll see it next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    No I'm not fond of him. Its a number of things he has done that have irked me. To be quite honest had he just kept his mouth shut I wouldn't think any less of him than I think of Povetkin (given the way he backed out of previous matches vs the Klitschko's) ....I wouldn't mind him vs Audley at all had he not constantly been saying bullshit like "I'm gonna knock all these bums out and clean up the division and be an exciting heavyweight champion"...looking at his opponents he may be "cleaning out the division" but he's started in the basement.

    He does need to fight more often too, no reason he shouldn't have 2-4 fights a year (depending on injuries and other stuff). Whoever said he was in love with the lifestyle of a pro boxer has been 100% correct thus far.
    I agree with Lyle here. Haye basically got his fame on talking crap to the Klits. He talked soo much trash and yet isn't fighting them. It would have been one thing if he had never said anything about the Klits.

    I understand the previous poster's point that the Audley fight is important for the British heavyweight scene and that they have a rivalry which needs to be sorted out. I get that. It's a weak title defense, but I get it.

    Me personally? I think this is about business for Haye. Haye knows Wlad and Vitali are by far and away the riskiest fights for him. No question about it. But, he also knows they are the biggest heavyweight names by far. So, he talks a ton of trash about them which convinces the public he is a new force at heavyweight, and then backs out of his fights with the Klits in favor of taking on lesser challengers and filling the coffers. He'll probably continue to milk the public until he absolutely has nowhere else to go but Wlad or Vitali. Who's Haye's mandatory? Is it Chagaev?

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    A Chagaev defense won't happen #1 He's a solid fighter not saying the WBA title holder would lose to him but it wouldn't be an easy fight #2 He has hepatitis which Valuev used as excuse not to fight him so I doubt the guy gets another shot at the WBA title...I feel kind of bad for the guy. I don't know who's next on the WBA rankings, it would be nice if it was Povetkin...I'd be quite interested in that match actually.

    I think Wlad is gunning for Adamek...hey at least Tomaz will get paid well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    A Chagaev defense won't happen #1 He's a solid fighter not saying the WBA title holder would lose to him but it wouldn't be an easy fight #2 He has hepatitis which Valuev used as excuse not to fight him so I doubt the guy gets another shot at the WBA title...I feel kind of bad for the guy. I don't know who's next on the WBA rankings, it would be nice if it was Povetkin...I'd be quite interested in that match actually.

    I think Wlad is gunning for Adamek...hey at least Tomaz will get paid well.
    Tomaz is nothing if not fearless. He takes on all challenges. I just don't think he has the size to beat Wlad. It would be a heavyweight fight that HBO would buy too. Tomaz is fighting Maddalone in December from what I've read. Quick hits: Martinez-Williams not yet set - ESPN

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    A Chagaev defense won't happen #1 He's a solid fighter not saying the WBA title holder would lose to him but it wouldn't be an easy fight #2 He has hepatitis which Valuev used as excuse not to fight him so I doubt the guy gets another shot at the WBA title...I feel kind of bad for the guy. I don't know who's next on the WBA rankings, it would be nice if it was Povetkin...I'd be quite interested in that match actually.

    I think Wlad is gunning for Adamek...hey at least Tomaz will get paid well.

    I'm pretty sure after Chagaev its Valuev then Boystov on the WBA rankings. Povetkin is ranked about 5th or 6th.

    As for Wlad I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Adamek, Povetkin or Valuev. I'd take him to beat all of those handily, but its slim pickings at the moment, especially with their being no chance of a Haye fight going through until spring at the earliest. I think Haye's speed may trouble Wlad early, but I'd still expect him to get stopped by the mid to late rounds. I just don't see anyone troubling him now, he's getting more and more dominant every fight

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    Just as a side point I'd be VERY surprised if Haye beat Chagaev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J da Bomba View Post
    Just as a side point I'd be VERY surprised if Haye beat Chagaev.
    I'd be very surprised if he stopped Chagaev. Ruslan is a tough dude but I doubt he is quick enough to cut the ring off vs El Pollo Explosivo (that's a new one for you)

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    I can't help but think that it would be better for boxing and for fans to have Chicken, Adamek, Povetkin and Solis fight each other before sending them for execution to K bros. I would love to see Chicken - Adamek or Chicken - Povetkin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    correct me if i'm wrong Lyle but I get impression you're not that keen on Haye ?

    If Haye fought 3-4 times a year there wouldn't be such a problem with the Harrison match - but thats the problem he doesn't.

    But I'm allowing him this one - this one is for the UK.

    After this if no Klit by spring then I will also turn against him
    After this fight he's got no where left to go. The reason why he's resorted to audley and a november date is because he spent so long negotiating with klit. It's all about getting it sorted round the negotiating table. I'm confident we'll see it next year.
    I'm with you on this one. The fight will happen 100%. He's just lining his pockets beforehand. The Klitschko fight could be his last big payday., so can't really blame him for cashing in now. Especially in such a winnable yet sell-able fight.
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    Default Re: Who's next for Wladimir?

    Has anyone of the Klit brothers defended their titles against anyone as poor as Audley Harrison ?
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    Yes but in all honesty this Harrison fight could have happened right after the Barrett fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Has anyone of the Klit brothers defended their titles against anyone as poor as Audley Harrison ?

    Yup

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