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    I think in 1992 Holmes, Foreman, Bruno, and Ruddock were very beat able and IMO Bowe would have been tested by big punchers (look at his record, who's the biggest banger he fought?). Bert Cooper gave Michael Moorer hell, you've got to figure he may have had trouble with a few of the guys listed. Tony Tucker barely beat Oliver McCall in 1992, it's not unbelieveable that someone 3-10 would give him a very hard fight.

    I'm not saying this is the greatest heavyweight era ever but the thing is the individual fighters have up and down years and they differ so let's not act like in 1992 all those heavyweights would just roll through this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think in 1992 Holmes, Foreman, Bruno, and Ruddock were very beat able and IMO Bowe would have been tested by big punchers (look at his record, who's the biggest banger he fought?). Bert Cooper gave Michael Moorer hell, you've got to figure he may have had trouble with a few of the guys listed. Tony Tucker barely beat Oliver McCall in 1992, it's not unbelieveable that someone 3-10 would give him a very hard fight.

    I'm not saying this is the greatest heavyweight era ever but the thing is the individual fighters have up and down years and they differ so let's not act like in 1992 all those heavyweights would just roll through this era.
    No, but they were way more talented overall from 1-10 compared to this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think in 1992 Holmes, Foreman, Bruno, and Ruddock were very beat able and IMO Bowe would have been tested by big punchers (look at his record, who's the biggest banger he fought?). Bert Cooper gave Michael Moorer hell, you've got to figure he may have had trouble with a few of the guys listed. Tony Tucker barely beat Oliver McCall in 1992, it's not unbelieveable that someone 3-10 would give him a very hard fight.

    I'm not saying this is the greatest heavyweight era ever but the thing is the individual fighters have up and down years and they differ so let's not act like in 1992 all those heavyweights would just roll through this era.
    No, but they were way more talented overall from 1-10 compared to this era.
    I totally agree. Look at the difference in shape between then and now. They were much more dedicated fighters in those days and it showed. The 4 best conditioned fighters now are the 3 champs and Adamek and surprise surprise they are the 4 making most noise! The rest of the HW's now are all burger eating bums!

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    Look at their shape, fine....but that means fuck all, look at their form. Mercer was EASILY outboxed by an ancient Larry Holmes in 92, Bowe was 100% finished in 1993, Ruddock was the Arreola/Peter of his era, big talent but never reached his true potential. Moorer was dangerous but got blasted by a 45 year old 1 dimensional power puncher...what a power puncher but very 1 dimensional. Frank Bruno was pretty much finished at the top level by 1989 (his 2nd loss to Tyson) but he was popular in England, had the fight vs Lewis, and eventually won the title off McCall after that but hell how hard is it to outbox McCall?

    Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, Mercer, and MAYBE Moorer and Bowe were more than 50/50 vs today's heavyweight top 10 but the rest of them, their best days were behind them by 1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Look at their shape, fine....but that means fuck all, look at their form. Mercer was EASILY outboxed by an ancient Larry Holmes in 92, Bowe was 100% finished in 1993, Ruddock was the Arreola/Peter of his era, big talent but never reached his true potential. Moorer was dangerous but got blasted by a 45 year old 1 dimensional power puncher...what a power puncher but very 1 dimensional. Frank Bruno was pretty much finished at the top level by 1989 (his 2nd loss to Tyson) but he was popular in England, had the fight vs Lewis, and eventually won the title off McCall after that but hell how hard is it to outbox McCall?

    Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, Mercer, and MAYBE Moorer and Bowe were more than 50/50 vs today's heavyweight top 10 but the rest of them, their best days were behind them by 1992.
    I'm sorry to say this bro. But this is nuthugging to the extreme. You're seriously downgrading and dissing the 2nd greatest HW era in order to make this current era that the Klits fight in look so much better, but the truth is it's not.

    A lot of real boxing fans have given the Klits their due as the best HWs of this era, but this era also is quite weak. That's a fact and reality, live with it. Just like Louis bum of the month club or Marciano fighting old and shot HW's. It's the reality this era is really bad and weak.

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    I'm sorry to say this bro. But this is nuthugging to the extreme. You're seriously downgrading and dissing the 2nd greatest HW era in order to make this current era that the Klits fight in look so much better, but the truth is it's not.

    A lot of real boxing fans have given the Klits their due as the best HWs of this era, but this era also is quite weak. That's a fact and reality, live with it. Just like Louis bum of the month club or Marciano fighting old and shot HW's. It's the reality this era is really bad and weak.
    Really? I mean the primes of Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, and Lewis didn't ALL overlap and plenty of more average fighters peaked and went away during all that era. I don't think it's beyond a resonable doubt that the top 10 of today could challenge those guys. Is it far fetched for a few? Yes, but it's also not unreasonable to look at the 1992 of Ray Mercer and say Thompson and Chambers beat him easily or that you look at a 1992 Frank Bruno that gets dropped more than a few times by Arreola and Sam Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm sorry to say this bro. But this is nuthugging to the extreme. You're seriously downgrading and dissing the 2nd greatest HW era in order to make this current era that the Klits fight in look so much better, but the truth is it's not.

    A lot of real boxing fans have given the Klits their due as the best HWs of this era, but this era also is quite weak. That's a fact and reality, live with it. Just like Louis bum of the month club or Marciano fighting old and shot HW's. It's the reality this era is really bad and weak.
    Really? I mean the primes of Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, and Lewis didn't ALL overlap and plenty of more average fighters peaked and went away during all that era. I don't think it's beyond a resonable doubt that the top 10 of today could challenge those guys. Is it far fetched for a few? Yes, but it's also not unreasonable to look at the 1992 of Ray Mercer and say Thompson and Chambers beat him easily or that you look at a 1992 Frank Bruno that gets dropped more than a few times by Arreola and Sam Peter.
    No way. I think Bruno beats both easily, and to be honest Bruno is waaaaaay worse than the rest of the list from 1992. As for Chambers and Thompson beating Mercer, again no way. I really can't believe you've tried comparing Ruddock to Arreola too. That fat fuck is shite, Ruddock was a very decent fighter. As for Big George being one dimensional, Maybe at that age yes but the same could easily be said about jab, jab, grab Wlad.

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