The state of the HW Division

[El Kabong]

Its kind of hard to have a meaningful fight when the division is pretty thin on legit contenders to begin with, everyone is avoiding Wlad, busy, hurt, and already signed to a different fight. Chicken Little, Povetkin, Adamek, Solis, Valuev....they can't or won't fight Wlad, what do you want the guy to do wait around for someone like Dempsey did?

[rjj tszyu]

Its kind of hard to have a meaningful fight when the division is pretty thin on legit contenders to begin with, everyone is avoiding Wlad, busy, hurt, and already signed to a different fight. Chicken Little, Povetkin, Adamek, Solis, Valuev....they can't or won't fight Wlad, what do you want the guy to do wait around for someone like Dempsey did?

There are better opponents than Chisora out there but I know where your coming from, believe me, he really he isn't that good at all. He was in a real tough fight with Sexton and Sexton was very lucky to beat Martin Rogan in the first fight. Rogan actually stopped fighting because he thought the ref should be stopping the fight and literally 1 min later the doctor stopped the fight because of a swelling Rogan had on his eye. That was the last time Rogan was the tough bastard that a lot of people had grown to love and he was not the same man in the rematch although it would be harsh to take too much from Sexton as he had improved...... Just not as much as the Sky commentators make out.

But no I do know where you are coming from and one thing I admire about Wlad is that he remains active despite the lack of opponents. I would target someone like Arreola though if I was Wlad, Yes it is a guaranteed win, BUT it is a tougher fight than Chisora and he would get some much needed coverage in America!

[El Kabong]

Oh I would love to see that fight (Wlad-Arreola)....hopefully Cris can get his ass back in decent shape, win a few decent fights and get another crack at it. Chisora is fresh, new, and hell you never know what a kid is going to do if they get a title shot. Wlad and Manny are just going to tweak their style to create more action and more drama and hopefully it works out for them...Wlad could run the division with his outside fighter technique for a LOOOOONG time, if he goes more Lennox Lewis he's good enough to reign for a long time still but it causes a little more excitement in the division.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

hurry up and have an opinion of your own eric, your boring me

[erics44]

hurry up and have an opinion of your own eric, your boring me

ok heres mine

theres nothing wrong with the HW division, in fact the two at the top are as good as (if not better than) any in history, there arent as many names running down the order but that is because the two at the top are so dominant and its harder to make a name in big fights when titles arent on the line

america is the centre of the world as far as boxing is concerned, and historically, they have always had the heavyweight champ.

The HW division will be considered rubbish by americans (where most of the "experts" ply their trade) until an american heavyweight at least looks like having a slight chance of winning a version of the title

all this talk about the HW division being crap is american propaganda

[El Kabong]

I whole heartedly agree erics44!

Prime example Bert Sugar

Bert says "Primo Carnera kills Klitschko"


Bert says "People will still want to see Jones-Hopkins II" and that "Jones-Hopkins II could rival Ali-Frazier III and Leonard-Hearns II"

Que Ridiculo!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

hurry up and have an opinion of your own eric, your boring me

ok heres mine

theres nothing wrong with the HW division, in fact the two at the top are as good as (if not better than) any in history, there arent as many names running down the order but that is because the two at the top are so dominant and its harder to make a name in big fights when titles arent on the line

america is the centre of the world as far as boxing is concerned, and historically, they have always had the heavyweight champ.

The HW division will be considered rubbish by americans (where most of the "experts" ply their trade) until an american heavyweight at least looks like having a slight chance of winning a version of the title

all this talk about the HW division being crap is american propaganda

So are you saying that you think the Heavyweight division is still Boxings premier division?

[erics44]

hurry up and have an opinion of your own eric, your boring me

ok heres mine

theres nothing wrong with the HW division, in fact the two at the top are as good as (if not better than) any in history, there arent as many names running down the order but that is because the two at the top are so dominant and its harder to make a name in big fights when titles arent on the line

america is the centre of the world as far as boxing is concerned, and historically, they have always had the heavyweight champ.

The HW division will be considered rubbish by americans (where most of the "experts" ply their trade) until an american heavyweight at least looks like having a slight chance of winning a version of the title

all this talk about the HW division being crap is american propaganda

So are you saying that you think the Heavyweight division is still Boxings premier division?

no, but im saying the reason that it isnt is more to do with the americans being rubbish than the whole division being rubbish

mr sugar summed it up dude

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

hurry up and have an opinion of your own eric, your boring me

ok heres mine

theres nothing wrong with the HW division, in fact the two at the top are as good as (if not better than) any in history, there arent as many names running down the order but that is because the two at the top are so dominant and its harder to make a name in big fights when titles arent on the line

america is the centre of the world as far as boxing is concerned, and historically, they have always had the heavyweight champ.

The HW division will be considered rubbish by americans (where most of the "experts" ply their trade) until an american heavyweight at least looks like having a slight chance of winning a version of the title

all this talk about the HW division being crap is american propaganda

So are you saying that you think the Heavyweight division is still Boxings premier division?

no, but im saying the reason that it isnt is more to do with the americans being rubbish than the whole division being rubbish

mr sugar summed it up dude

I cant stand Bert Sugar!

I'm starting to feel that Boxing will suffer in the long run if HBO continue to not show any heavyweight fights. I know there are worse things happening in boxing but at this point it's very unrealistic for HBO to assume that boxing coverage can resume without people knowing who the Heavyweight champion of the world is!

I agree that the K-Bros are the best out there and would probably beat every previous heavyweight champ bar Lennox Lewis but thats just due to the simple fact that they are all (The K-Bros & Lewis) very comfortable in their 6ft 5ins+, 240lbs+ frames in which they hold considerable advantages in.

I'm rantin on again... I apologise

[piye]

No it's just a poor division full stop why delude ourselves?

[El Kabong]

No it's just a poor division full stop why delude ourselves?

Poor division or no, I find it interesting and will always find it interesting.