Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
i dont mind thunder

sure he is a punching bag for every guy who has even the most basic of boxing knowledge like you and i. But to actually get the shit beat out of you every other week and still not just call it a day takes some guts.

Its guys like zelenoff people who need outside intervention, hartley is more than capable of taking his lumps
No. He's a threat to his own person and his little kid must have a brighter future than to take care of a parkinson's father at a young age.