Record Slating

[erics44]

I did realise that when i started this thread i was starting a Hattons crap thread

If i had of known I would have just posted on one of the many other threads with the same theme

[skel1983]

I did realise that when i started this thread i was starting a Hattons crap thread

If i had of known I would have just posted on one of the many other threads with the same theme

Mate what do you expect in reality? You used Hatton as an example, now persoally I think Hattons record is scrutinized a lot more because in his early career he did get a lot of fighters from Warren to make him look a lot better than he was, but Hatton had a great career and would give 90% of fighters a great fight.

The Cotto statement I see what your saying, I think Cotto is/was a world class fighter who was effected physically and mentally by the Margo fight and is not the same fighter still beats alot of world class fighters in and around 147, his record has been solid through out his career imo.

[erics44]

I did realise that when i started this thread i was starting a Hattons crap thread

If i had of known I would have just posted on one of the many other threads with the same theme

Mate what do you expect in reality? You used Hatton as an example, now persoally I think Hattons record is scrutinized a lot more because in his early career he did get a lot of fighters from Warren to make him look a lot better than he was, but Hatton had a great career and would give 90% of fighters a great fight.

The Cotto statement I see what your saying, I think Cotto is/was a world class fighter who was effected physically and mentally by the Margo fight and is not the same fighter still beats alot of world class fighters in and around 147, his record has been solid through out his career imo.

dude you are right

i worded the thread all wrong and gave all the negativeness the chance to jump on the band waggon

and maybe i was a little harsh on cotto

[BIG H]

I have said this so many times before about Hatton V Tszyu, but here goes again

Facts

1.) 35 is not old!!
2.) Been relatively inactive, does not make you 'Shot'
3.) His last fight was one of his best, i.e KOing Mitchell, in a fight he was hardly hit. So what happened in between that fight and the Hatton fight to make Tszyu shot?
4.) Tszyu had not been in any wars! (Tough fight against Philips)
5.) Tszyu had had less fights than Hatton

He just couldn't handle Hatton's style or workrate - Simples

[Fenster]

I have said this so many times before about Hatton V Tszyu, but here goes again

Facts

1.) 35 is not old!!
2.) Been relatively inactive, does not make you 'Shot'
3.) His last fight was one of his best, i.e KOing Mitchell, in a fight he was hardly hit. So what happened in between that fight and the Hatton fight to make Tszyu shot?
4.) Tszyu had not been in any wars! (Tough fight against Philips)
5.) Tszyu had had less fights than Hatton

He just couldn't handle Hatton's style or workrate - Simples

6.) Tszyu was ranked P4P no.3

[Mattyhitman]

If you really wanted to you could pick holes in any boxers record

One example ive read recently is a post that suggested Hatton only fought aging over the hill fighters and the post had a list of his victims who the poster seemed to think anyone could have beaten at that point in their carears

But are there any fighters with a solid record? when i say solid i dont neccessarily mean without loss just very hard to pick holes in

before the margarito fight i used to think Cotto had beaten anyone and everyone he had had the chance to fight, all at the top of their game. Im not saying the margarito fight changed my mind but Cotto hasnt really been the same since and doesnt really look top of the world as he once did

It could be a double edged question i guess - eg Hattons record is not bad, in fact its very good, for a pro boxer 45-2 (32ko's), whereas most seem to be debating his resume/ opponents faced, which to me, the is a difference between the two.

Now look at Oscar De La Hoya's record of 39-6 (30ko's) and you would argue Hatton's is better for a pro boxer. Now look at the resume and clearly Oscar's is by far the better - these are just 2 examples of 2 boxers i've followed and respect.

One could look through long lists of boxers records, and to be fair, the records dont really reflect the boxers true standing due to opponents faced.

Here's one to look at, Sven Ottke - great or not ? went through his whole career without a pro loss yet villified by many as a boxer not willing to travel in fear of a loss, and gifted many decisions ( in my opinion ) in his home country !!