Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!

[skel1983]

Murray is a good fighter but he'll get mullered once he steps up to world-class. He's too slow, too static, doesn't have KO power.

He always looks like he's been in a war at this level so fuck knows what the big boys will do to him.

Agree with all of this. Khan would muller him and Ortiz will stop him.

khan maybe, murray will beat ortiz

IF the fight happens, I'll bet you £20 he doesn't.

bring it on loser

Eric I respect your love for British fighters but the your Union Jack shades are getting in the way mate, Ortiz would destroy Murray. I will take that bet any day of the week.

Saying that the fight aint happening, Murray has said he want's to concentrate on 135 division, I new he wouldn't fight Ortiz it would end badly. Ortiz is to strong for Murray, Murray struggles to get Gary Buckland out of there who is a career 130 lb fighter who has since say he is moving back down imagine Ortiz v Buckland it would be over in three rounds, Murray is solid fighter exiciting but he doesn't bang hard enough with that style at world class level he doesn't move his head and Lee Mcallister ( who is average fighter in truth ) showed that he cant deal with movement, I don't even think Ortiz needs to box Murray Ortiz will eventually be a 147 fighter he can stand and trade with Murray and get the better of him, either way Murray would be loose.

the macallister fight was one of murrays worst performances, the worst I have seen, and i dont think it was a movement problem i just think he had an off day

its a pitty the ortiz isnt happening, murray would have won

but we should be able to see him in world class soon, murray is calling out katsidis, maybe we will see that fight and see if murray can take a punch

Sorry mate it was deffo a movement problem, Murray who I know very well has not fought anyone with boxing skills who uses movement, Mcallister was giving him fits and boxing his ears off by using the ring and angles, until Murray walked him down, but like I say that is Mcallister a limited domestic fighter, Katsidis wold be to much for him as well imo, get him in with Mitchell and that would be a good indicator of how good he is, his resume is weak and he needs to up his game.

[erics44]

you are wrong dude

i hope it happens sooner rather than later so i can laugh in smuggness

[skel1983]

you are wrong dude

i hope it happens sooner rather than later so i can laugh in smuggness

Which the fight with Ortiz? Or ?

Because he has turned that fight down, 135 is to hot for him aswell Rios Marquez Katsidis all to good for him, Soto and Juan Diaz he has chances with but I can't see him beating anyone at world title level for me anyway.

[erics44]

i hope he gets in with anyone at world level soon

its a pitty there will be no ortiz fight mind

[Master]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

[0james0]

Heart and desire will only get you so far.

JMM, Katsidis and Ortiz (although of the three I'd say he is the best chance) would all murder Murray.

I like the guy and love his style, great to watch, but he will be taking a massive jump in his next fight. Even Diaz and co will be a very big step up.

[JazMerkin]

Murray fighting Ortiz would be frightening, he'd probably try to brawl & Ortiz would stop him in 2 or 3 in my book. Kudriatsev caught him with a couple that made him think, so I'd hate to see what a big strong 140lber would do. Even at 135, I just don't see enough to challenge guys like JMM or Katsidis, who I reckon would both do a number on him.

I would really like to see him fight Brandon Rios, that has FOTY all over it, but I'd probably favour Rios. I reckon Soto is winnable, he takes rounds off & if he can look at the gameplan David Diaz took in & try to refine it, that's a 50/50 fight

[erics44]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

[skel1983]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.