Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!

[skel1983]

Wow I would be surprised if Murray and his team took this, people would say he ducked Ortiz but I can't see Murray beating Ortiz in a million years Ortiz is bigger faster better skills it could be good for a few rounds but Murray is two fights from a world title at 135, what do you think he will do?

I know that there is the added bonus if he wins he could face Khan but If he takes this fight I would take my hat off to him.

[ICB]

Wow I would be surprised if Murray and his team took this, people would say he ducked Ortiz but I can't see Murray beating Ortiz in a million years Ortiz is bigger faster better skills it could be good for a few rounds but Murray is two fights from a world title at 135, what do you think he will do?

I know that there is the added bonus if he wins he could face Khan but If he takes this fight I would take my hat off to him.

Well it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.

[skel1983]

Wow I would be surprised if Murray and his team took this, people would say he ducked Ortiz but I can't see Murray beating Ortiz in a million years Ortiz is bigger faster better skills it could be good for a few rounds but Murray is two fights from a world title at 135, what do you think he will do?

I know that there is the added bonus if he wins he could face Khan but If he takes this fight I would take my hat off to him.

Well it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.

At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the moment , looking at it again maybe he will take it as he could loose and go back to 135 but maybe he will loose all his rankings at the same time.

It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.

[ono]

Wow I would be surprised if Murray and his team took this, people would say he ducked Ortiz but I can't see Murray beating Ortiz in a million years Ortiz is bigger faster better skills it could be good for a few rounds but Murray is two fights from a world title at 135, what do you think he will do?

I know that there is the added bonus if he wins he could face Khan but If he takes this fight I would take my hat off to him.

Well it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.

At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the moment , looking at it again maybe he will take it as he could loose and go back to 135 but maybe he will loose all his rankings at the same time.

It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.

Only Mick Hennessey would be stupid enough to allow that to happen. So it depends on what happens with him.

[erics44]

dont rule him out

it would be fantastic for him if it happened

cummon john

[skel1983]

dont rule him out

it would be fantastic for him if it happened

cummon john

Yes I speak to John sometimes top lad, and like you say don't rule him out he might step upto the plate tougher the challenge the better the performance, just think though he can be outboxed and Ortiz could break him up. Hope not would love this fight I think it could be a war for as long as it lasts.

[erics44]

dont rule him out

it would be fantastic for him if it happened

cummon john

Yes I speak to John sometimes top lad, and like you say don't rule him out he might step upto the plate tougher the challenge the better the performance, just think though he can be outboxed and Ortiz could break him up. Hope not would love this fight I think it could be a war for as long as it lasts.

murray could be bigger and stronger at light welter

i think if he can take his power early murray could wear him down

murray hasnt really been tested yet, and still has the stubborness of an unbeaten fighter

[ICB]

Wow I would be surprised if Murray and his team took this, people would say he ducked Ortiz but I can't see Murray beating Ortiz in a million years Ortiz is bigger faster better skills it could be good for a few rounds but Murray is two fights from a world title at 135, what do you think he will do?

I know that there is the added bonus if he wins he could face Khan but If he takes this fight I would take my hat off to him.

Well it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.

At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the moment , looking at it again maybe he will take it as he could loose and go back to 135 but maybe he will loose all his rankings at the same time.

It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.

Well there's no real big fights for him at Lightweight that are realistic, guys like Soto, Marquez, Funeka, would do bad damage to John Murray.

Victor Ortiz is a big pay for him, a chance for him to get into the spotlight. And i don't care what the odds say mate, no way is John Murray that much of an underdog.

He's in with a shot in this fight, he could very well break Victor Ortiz's will. If he can close the distance, i mean the smart money says Victor Ortiz will be too classy and he will out maneuver the slower one dimensional John Murray.

But i give him more of a chance in the Victor Ortiz fight, than i would against the other 3 names i mentioned, thats for damn sure.

[HattonTheHammer]

too close to call

ortiz maybe just shading a hometown decision, but murray will be right in there and looking to dominate from the get go

[0james0]

Murray has heart and desire in abundance though and when the question was asked about Ortiz (fighting Maidana) he quit, citing crap about protecting his good looks and speach.

Ortiz has more skills, but that doesn't mean he'd win the fight. Murray certainly wouldn't make it easy for him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ortiz KO's Murray within 5 rounds

[superheavyrhun]

After watching the fight last night, Murray didn't really impress that much, so if Frank is going to offer him some proper money to fight on the Khan undercard, with an even bigger payday down the line if they both pick up the wins, then I think he should take it.

As someone mentioned, he's not going to be earning that much with the shows he's doing at the moment, and the more journeymen he fights, eventually complacency will sneak in, and he might get caught out and lose. A title shot now is worth two in the bush (or something like that).

As for the weight, if he is having difficulties, it's just another nudge towards the Warren offer.

[skel1983]

After watching the fight last night, Murray didn't really impress that much, so if Frank is going to offer him some proper money to fight on the Khan undercard, with an even bigger payday down the line if they both pick up the wins, then I think he should take it.

As someone mentioned, he's not going to be earning that much with the shows he's doing at the moment, and the more journeymen he fights, eventually complacency will sneak in, and he might get caught out and lose. A title shot now is worth two in the bush (or something like that).

As for the weight, if he is having difficulties, it's just another nudge towards the Warren offer.

The offer is from Golden Boy, I think they see this as more British fans tuning in and getting to see more of Ortiz as Bradley/Alexander do agree to fight there is deffo a rematch so I see Glodenboy trying to make Khan v Ortiz if Khan gets past Maidana and Murray is not a bad opponent for him and like I said will get more Brits interested in Ortiz.

The warren reference I was making was regard to Murray whose contract has now run out with fat Mick and for me I would sign with Warren and then there is the possibility of Mitchell v Murray which is probably the best domestic fight out there for me in the whole country.

And also for people saying he is struggling to make 135 not at all John is very comfortable at 135, but when Adam Smith asked him about the Ortiz fight after last night, his answer/reaction to me looked like he has no interest in that fight and as a big fan of Murray I think he would be blown away.

[superheavyrhun]

The offer is from Golden Boy, I think they see this as more British fans tuning in and getting to see more of Ortiz as Bradley/Alexander do agree to fight there is deffo a rematch so I see Glodenboy trying to make Khan v Ortiz if Khan gets past Maidana and Murray is not a bad opponent for him and like I said will get more Brits interested in Ortiz.

The warren reference I was making was regard to Murray whose contract has now run out with fat Mick and for me I would sign with Warren and then there is the possibility of Mitchell v Murray which is probably the best domestic fight out there for me in the whole country.

And also for people saying he is struggling to make 135 not at all John is very comfortable at 135, but when Adam Smith asked him about the Ortiz fight after last night, his answer/reaction to me looked like he has no interest in that fight and as a big fan of Murray I think he would be blown away.

Whoops, that'll be my alzheimers kicking in there, however, if the offer on the table for him to fight at 140 and the money is significantly better, then I'm not sure he shouldn't look more seriously at that. Either way, he needs to get a fight organised that will invigorate him and get him closer to a world title shot.

[Master]

Murray is a good fighter but far too one dimensional and predictable at the world level.