Record Slating

[erics44]

Hatton was a good fighter and he fought the best opposition at the time, unfortunately the 140 pound division has not been strong competition wise in history. There is a reason why so many great fighters like Whitaker, Pac, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Ray Robinson, Duran, Mosley just pass through the division with a fight here or there or entirely skips it, because historically Welterweight has been the place with the biggest fights and money purses below the HW division.

And for the record, Pryor and Tszyu imo also didn't have too many great names on their records at the division also, just like Hatton. Like I said, historically 140 pound division isn't that strong.

just one comment on this daft post

for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division

Whatever makes you happy bro. Learn to live in reality. I know Hatton fans have a hard time with this. See all the excuses on why Hatton lost to 2 of the greatest fighters of this era.

ha, you disagree?

you are either too young and wasnt around in that period or stoopid

its probly the second

[skel1983]

Hatton was a good fighter and he fought the best opposition at the time, unfortunately the 140 pound division has not been strong competition wise in history. There is a reason why so many great fighters like Whitaker, Pac, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Ray Robinson, Duran, Mosley just pass through the division with a fight here or there or entirely skips it, because historically Welterweight has been the place with the biggest fights and money purses below the HW division.

And for the record, Pryor and Tszyu imo also didn't have too many great names on their records at the division also, just like Hatton. Like I said, historically 140 pound division isn't that strong.

just one comment on this daft post

for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division

Whatever makes you happy bro. Learn to live in reality. I know Hatton fans have a hard time with this. See all the excuses on why Hatton lost to 2 of the greatest fighters of this era.

ha, you disagree?

you are either too young and wasnt around in that period or stoopid

its probly the second

To be fair Eric when Hatton took the number 1 mantle up it was hot, but then everyone left or Hatton didn't fight any of the other 140 fighters that made it a hot division, his fault or not but most of Hatton's run at 140 Junior Witter was number fucking two

[erics44]

Hatton was a good fighter and he fought the best opposition at the time, unfortunately the 140 pound division has not been strong competition wise in history. There is a reason why so many great fighters like Whitaker, Pac, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Ray Robinson, Duran, Mosley just pass through the division with a fight here or there or entirely skips it, because historically Welterweight has been the place with the biggest fights and money purses below the HW division.

And for the record, Pryor and Tszyu imo also didn't have too many great names on their records at the division also, just like Hatton. Like I said, historically 140 pound division isn't that strong.

just one comment on this daft post

for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division

Whatever makes you happy bro. Learn to live in reality. I know Hatton fans have a hard time with this. See all the excuses on why Hatton lost to 2 of the greatest fighters of this era.

ha, you disagree?

you are either too young and wasnt around in that period or stoopid

its probly the second

To be fair Eric when Hatton took the number 1 mantle up it was hot, but then everyone left or Hatton didn't fight any of the other 140 fighters that made it a hot division, his fault or not but most of Hatton's run at 140 Junior Witter was number fucking two

a lot of fighters left the division yes

but as i said, for a time when hatton was at his peak the light welterweight division was much stronger than the welterweight division, and that is a fact (not a fenster fact tho because his facts generally arent facts)

and no hatton didnt fight any of the big names, but we are talking about the ridiculous notion that fighters always skip the division

its probably strionger than welterweight now is it not?

[generalbulldog]

Hatton was a good fighter and he fought the best opposition at the time, unfortunately the 140 pound division has not been strong competition wise in history. There is a reason why so many great fighters like Whitaker, Pac, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Ray Robinson, Duran, Mosley just pass through the division with a fight here or there or entirely skips it, because historically Welterweight has been the place with the biggest fights and money purses below the HW division.

And for the record, Pryor and Tszyu imo also didn't have too many great names on their records at the division also, just like Hatton. Like I said, historically 140 pound division isn't that strong.

just one comment on this daft post

for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division

Whatever makes you happy bro. Learn to live in reality. I know Hatton fans have a hard time with this. See all the excuses on why Hatton lost to 2 of the greatest fighters of this era.

ha, you disagree?

you are either too young and wasnt around in that period or stoopid

its probly the second

To be fair Eric when Hatton took the number 1 mantle up it was hot, but then everyone left or Hatton didn't fight any of the other 140 fighters that made it a hot division, his fault or not but most of Hatton's run at 140 Junior Witter was number fucking two

That's right, it was only hot for a moment and then Floyd and Cotto (the 2 biggest names at 140) went up to 147. And at 147 you had Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Clottey, CIntron, etc.

Much better than Hatton, Malignaggi, Castillo, Witter, Harris, Corley, Ndou, etc.

Ring ratings for 2006. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2006

Ring Ratings for 2007. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2007

Ring Ratings for 2008. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2008

So when Hatton reigned it was only hot for a moment, and then the other 3 years he reigned it was so much inferior talent wise to 147. As I've said 147 has been historically the strongest division below HW, and throughout boxing history it has given the most biggest fights below HW. Fact.

[erics44]

That's right, it was only hot for a moment and then Floyd and Cotto (the 2 biggest names at 140) went up to 147. And at 147 you had Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Clottey, CIntron, etc.

Much better than Hatton, Malignaggi, Castillo, Witter, Harris, Corley, Ndou, etc.

Ring ratings for 2006. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2006 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2007. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2007 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2008. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2008 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

So when Hatton reigned it was only hot for a moment, and then the other 3 years he reigned it was so much inferior talent wise to 147. As I've said 147 has been historically the strongest division below HW, and throughout boxing history it has given the most biggest fights below HW. Fact.

you are moving away from the discussion point

2 or 3 years ago for about a year or 2 lww was better than ww, then for 2 or 3 years ww has been better than lww, now lww is better than ww and probly will be for a couple of years, and then it probly wont be for a couple of years, and then it probly will be

you made a ridiculous comment that hattons record is shit because he fought at light welterweight

its a ridiculous comment dude soz

[generalbulldog]

That's right, it was only hot for a moment and then Floyd and Cotto (the 2 biggest names at 140) went up to 147. And at 147 you had Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Clottey, CIntron, etc.

Much better than Hatton, Malignaggi, Castillo, Witter, Harris, Corley, Ndou, etc.

Ring ratings for 2006. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2006 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2007. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2007 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2008. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2008 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

So when Hatton reigned it was only hot for a moment, and then the other 3 years he reigned it was so much inferior talent wise to 147. As I've said 147 has been historically the strongest division below HW, and throughout boxing history it has given the most biggest fights below HW. Fact.

you are moving away from the discussion point

2 or 3 years ago for about a year or 2 lww was better than ww, then for 2 or 3 years ww has been better than lww, now lww is better than ww and probly will be for a couple of years, and then it probly wont be for a couple of years, and then it probly will be

you made a ridiculous comment that hattons record is shit because he fought at light welterweight

its a ridiculous comment dude soz

Alright I'll entertain this post.

I'm moving away from the discussion point? This is your exact quote, "for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division."

So Hatton's peak would be from mid 2005 (when he beat Tszyu) to the end of 2007 when he got ko by Floyd. Except for a few months in 2005, the 140 pound division was much weaker than the 147 division in 2006, 2007, and even when he was top dog at 140 in 2008, it was still much weaker than the welterweight dvision. The ring ratings that I posted proved that.

And again your claim that the 140 pound division 2 or 3 years ago in your latest post is absurd. 2 or 3 years ago would be 2007 and 2008 and again the ring ratings proved that the 147 pound division was head and shoulders above the 140 division. And no, 140 now is not better than 147, not with Floyd and Manny being there, along with Mosley and Cotto who are both still ranked there, and now even Bradley has made the top 10 of WWs.

Class dismissed son.

[Fenster]

That's right, it was only hot for a moment and then Floyd and Cotto (the 2 biggest names at 140) went up to 147. And at 147 you had Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Clottey, CIntron, etc.

Much better than Hatton, Malignaggi, Castillo, Witter, Harris, Corley, Ndou, etc.

Ring ratings for 2006. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2006 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2007. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2007 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2008. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2008 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

So when Hatton reigned it was only hot for a moment, and then the other 3 years he reigned it was so much inferior talent wise to 147. As I've said 147 has been historically the strongest division below HW, and throughout boxing history it has given the most biggest fights below HW. Fact.

you are moving away from the discussion point

2 or 3 years ago for about a year or 2 lww was better than ww, then for 2 or 3 years ww has been better than lww, now lww is better than ww and probly will be for a couple of years, and then it probly wont be for a couple of years, and then it probly will be

you made a ridiculous comment that hattons record is shit because he fought at light welterweight

its a ridiculous comment dude soz

Alright I'll entertain this post.

I'm moving away from the discussion point? This is your exact quote, "for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division."

So Hatton's peak would be from mid 2005 (when he beat Tszyu) to the end of 2007 when he got ko by Floyd. Except for a few months in 2005, the 140 pound division was much weaker than the 147 division in 2006, 2007, and even when he was top dog at 140 in 2008, it was still much weaker than the welterweight dvision. The ring ratings that I posted proved that.

And again your claim that the 140 pound division 2 or 3 years ago in your latest post is absurd. 2 or 3 years ago would be 2007 and 2008 and again the ring ratings proved that the 147 pound division was head and shoulders above the 140 division. And no, 140 now is not better than 147, not with Floyd and Manny being there, along with Mosley and Cotto who are both still ranked there, and now even Bradley has made the top 10 of WWs.

Class dismissed son.

Castillo was rated the no.1 lightwelter after just one disputed win over Ngoudjo when Hatton fought him. That says it all about how strong the division was at the time.

[killersheep]

I signed up on this forum 4 and a half years ago, guess what was being discussed?

The quality of Hatton's resume.

He was an exciting fighter, fought everyone he could, and left it all in the ring, at the end of the day that's all that matters.
Using p4p lists for factual backup are like using boxrec's ratings for backup, it's just debatable at best.
The fact that they are on the lists is the only factual thing about them, because the formula is opinion to begin with.

Back to the actual topic EVERY fighter has their resume picked apart by someone at some time, it's the nature of boxing. Noone has a perfect career that fought all their opponents in their primes.

[erics44]

That's right, it was only hot for a moment and then Floyd and Cotto (the 2 biggest names at 140) went up to 147. And at 147 you had Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Clottey, CIntron, etc.

Much better than Hatton, Malignaggi, Castillo, Witter, Harris, Corley, Ndou, etc.

Ring ratings for 2006. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2006 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2007. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2007 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Ring Ratings for 2008. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2008 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

So when Hatton reigned it was only hot for a moment, and then the other 3 years he reigned it was so much inferior talent wise to 147. As I've said 147 has been historically the strongest division below HW, and throughout boxing history it has given the most biggest fights below HW. Fact.

you are moving away from the discussion point

2 or 3 years ago for about a year or 2 lww was better than ww, then for 2 or 3 years ww has been better than lww, now lww is better than ww and probly will be for a couple of years, and then it probly wont be for a couple of years, and then it probly will be

you made a ridiculous comment that hattons record is shit because he fought at light welterweight

its a ridiculous comment dude soz

Alright I'll entertain this post.

I'm moving away from the discussion point? This is your exact quote, "for a time when hatton was at his peak in the LWW division it was considered to have a lot more depth than the WW division."

So Hatton's peak would be from mid 2005 (when he beat Tszyu) to the end of 2007 when he got ko by Floyd. Except for a few months in 2005, the 140 pound division was much weaker than the 147 division in 2006, 2007, and even when he was top dog at 140 in 2008, it was still much weaker than the welterweight dvision. The ring ratings that I posted proved that.

And again your claim that the 140 pound division 2 or 3 years ago in your latest post is absurd. 2 or 3 years ago would be 2007 and 2008 and again the ring ratings proved that the 147 pound division was head and shoulders above the 140 division. And no, 140 now is not better than 147, not with Floyd and Manny being there, along with Mosley and Cotto who are both still ranked there, and now even Bradley has made the top 10 of WWs.

Class dismissed son.

cummon man you are taking this a bit far now, maybe i was a month or two out with my timescales but tha fact remains that your post saying hattons record is rubbish because he was a LWW was ridiculous, posibly the most ridiculous post I have read on this forum

ok there was the one where icb recconned he could go 3 rounds with pac, so maybe it is the joint most ridiculous post

we should have a most ridiculous post thread, i would start with those two