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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    De La Hoya came into the promotion world on a 'bettering boxing' kick but he has done jack shit, and I was a real supporter of his too. He did almost what amounted to a 'State of Boxing' speech on my local radio station KNBR in the runup to the second Juarez-Barrera fight and everything he outlined in that speech, none of it has been accomplished. 1 boxing commission is a good thing, because people are actually on government payrolls that let Kid Thunder fight. 1 promoter isn't a good thing, no way. Still, let's see if he actually does anything to make this 1 commission thing happen.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    You are naive, what if they do not want to sign for him, they are forced to sign with him and what he has to offer. He will look after himself and his cronies.
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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    You are naive, what if they do not want to sign for him, they are forced to sign with him and what he has to offer. He will look after himself and his cronies.
    umm you're the one even taking the idea of it happening seriously, so who's really the naive one? King, Arum, and hell even Goosen have too much money of their own for DLH and GBP to be able to come anywhere close to getting a monopoly, it's never gonna happen, and if it did we would be stuck with boxing's version of UFC and the only ones who'd be screwed are the fighters themselves, that said yea there should only be one commission

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Competition is what keeps business successful and thriving. Oscar wants to be a damn Don...not King. We don't need dictators. Maybe he can ensure lifetime contracts for his fellow share holders....and I'm betting Hopkins could last until 65 yrs old

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Boxing should turn the keys over to De La Hoya. Let the man fixes what's wrong. If anybody can do it, Oscar can

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Boxing should turn the keys over to De La Hoya. Let the man fixes what's wrong. If anybody can do it, Oscar can
    Giving him absolute power will destroy boxing, no one should have that much power, not good for the boxers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Competition is what keeps business successful and thriving. Oscar wants to be a damn Don...not King. We don't need dictators. Maybe he can ensure lifetime contracts for his fellow share holders....and I'm betting Hopkins could last until 65 yrs old
    Nice play on words there Spicoli.

    Mr King is a 4 real killa he would never just roll over for the new Don.
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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Competition is what keeps business successful and thriving. Oscar wants to be a damn Don...not King. We don't need dictators. Maybe he can ensure lifetime contracts for his fellow share holders....and I'm betting Hopkins could last until 65 yrs old
    Nice play on words there Spicoli.

    Mr King is a 4 real killa he would never just roll over for the new Don.
    Yeh Kings a walking cartoon but he and Arum always served as counter balance to one another. Competion as shown by Kings early SET ppvs which were the best I've seen. On the flip side though, both of their stubborn arses prevented some great fights from happening, network haggeling and not risking 'franchise' fighters.

    A monopoly is not good. It may streamline and simplify early on but it won't last and even more quality fighters will lose 'favor' thus exposure to fans and vice versa. Unified boards and commision are the answer not a self anointed czar with a direct financial interest in contract terms and outcomes. Like ex fighters being involved big time but one man one vote gets sticky.
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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    You are naive, what if they do not want to sign for him, they are forced to sign with him and what he has to offer. He will look after himself and his cronies.
    umm you're the one even taking the idea of it happening seriously, so who's really the naive one? King, Arum, and hell even Goosen have too much money of their own for DLH and GBP to be able to come anywhere close to getting a monopoly, it's never gonna happen, and if it did we would be stuck with boxing's version of UFC and the only ones who'd be screwed are the fighters themselves, that said yea there should only be one commission
    What's wrong with the ufc? They make all the big fights that are wanted, and put out good cards on a monthly basis, and the guys who don't perform get booted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    You are naive, what if they do not want to sign for him, they are forced to sign with him and what he has to offer. He will look after himself and his cronies.
    umm you're the one even taking the idea of it happening seriously, so who's really the naive one? King, Arum, and hell even Goosen have too much money of their own for DLH and GBP to be able to come anywhere close to getting a monopoly, it's never gonna happen, and if it did we would be stuck with boxing's version of UFC and the only ones who'd be screwed are the fighters themselves, that said yea there should only be one commission
    What's wrong with the ufc? They make all the big fights that are wanted, and put out good cards on a monthly basis, and the guys who don't perform get booted.
    ummm apart from they pay their fighters peanuts well yea nothing...

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    You are naive, what if they do not want to sign for him, they are forced to sign with him and what he has to offer. He will look after himself and his cronies.
    umm you're the one even taking the idea of it happening seriously, so who's really the naive one? King, Arum, and hell even Goosen have too much money of their own for DLH and GBP to be able to come anywhere close to getting a monopoly, it's never gonna happen, and if it did we would be stuck with boxing's version of UFC and the only ones who'd be screwed are the fighters themselves, that said yea there should only be one commission
    What's wrong with the ufc? They make all the big fights that are wanted, and put out good cards on a monthly basis, and the guys who don't perform get booted.
    ummm apart from they pay their fighters peanuts well yea nothing...
    George St. Pierre the best fighter p4p in the UFC got paid 60k in one of his co-headlining fights. Lesnar got paid something like 450k for headlining a ppv that had 1.5 million buys. Great for the fans no doubt, but really shitty pay for the tens of millions they make for Dana White. White gets tens of millions while if these guys are lucky the may break 100k. Now that is sad.

    Boxing can fix a lot of things if it had 1 commission only, which I'm for. The thing I'm against is 1 promoter UFC style, this fucks over the fighters really badly. And since many of these guys put it on the line to entertain us, I do want them to get what they can get.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    They could also lock out other fighters and tell fighters exactly what they were going to pay them. There would be no options or bargaining power for a fighter if one guy controlled everything. If a fighter wasnt happy with their purse they would just put them on the shelf and forget about them like King did to many fighters. Its a bad idea that will never happen. Oscar is no saint for boxing.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya: I want to eliminate all competition

    Quote Originally Posted by salty trunks View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    ODH wants a monopoly on fighters, so does Arum, King and Warren. Boxing would be ruined if that happens.
    how so? if one promoter had all the rights to every fighter there would be no need to shield a fighter, seeing how they would get all the profits regardless
    They could also lock out other fighters and tell fighters exactly what they were going to pay them. There would be no options or bargaining power for a fighter if one guy controlled everything. If a fighter wasnt happy with their purse they would just put them on the shelf and forget about them like King did to many fighters. Its a bad idea that will never happen. Oscar is no saint for boxing.
    how's this any different from the UFC?

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