Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H)

[Gandalf]

If you're going to start topics and continually post controversial opinions on issues which people feel strongly about, you can't be surprised when some people get upset. I don't see why you'd leave over it. If it bothers you that much, do what I did when and just ignore those types of threads.

These 'poor me, goodbye' goodbye threads are fucking weak. Nobody ever actually leaves after they make one.

....Dang and that's coming from a Canadian!

Well, it's fucking true. Posters take all kinds of flak for posting all kinds of things and they rarely leave because of it. The motive behind every single one of these types of threads that I have seen isn't to actually announce a persons leaving, it's to solicit responses from other members encouraging the person that they have to stay and how great they are and blah blah blah. I'm not going to do that.

I like Miles, I like talking about boxing and music and a million other things with him. He's a valued, long-time poster and I hope he remains (as I suspect he will), but the forum won't die without him. I've been here for over 4 years now, a thousand people have come and gone in that time, and I can count one one hand the number of individuals whose leaving has been truly detrimental to this site.

Miles: I hope you decide to stick around, but you need to relax. Get high, get laid, take some pills or whatever, but just relax. Talking about politics (or in your case incessantly arguing about Israel and America with the same 4 or 5 posters) on a motherfucking boxing forum is nothing to get genuinely upset about. Neither are sad clicks. If you want to talk politics and be taken seriously, why not find a political forum where a large number of people actively debate these types of issues? I'm sure there are a million of them out there and perhaps you would find the types of discussion you are seeking there.

You are right, most people start "I'm leaving" threads to garner a response. I didn't though. I was really angry. As soon as I started a thread about Israel I got 30 sad clicks. It made me question myself. Am I so extreme that it has come to this? "I don't think I am extreme, but the clicks won't stop coming". Maybe I should exterminate myself?

Anyway, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. You are one of the forum members here who make me think. And that is always a good thing.

[Gandalf]

My final point is that I don't think I have controversial views. My views on subjects such as Israel are not controversial. Is it not a fact that Israel has built on 42%of the land illegally taken since 1967? My views on this are not controversial, Israel's actions are the controversy.

[CFH]

My final point is that I don't think I have controversial views. My views on subjects such as Israel are not controversial. Is it not a fact that Israel has built on 42%of the land illegally taken since 1967? My views on this are not controversial, Israel's actions are the controversy.

Most of your views, the ones you've expressed on here at least, don't strike me as all that radical (aside from the Yuri Foreman episode), but they way you present them at times has a tendency to rub some people the wrong way and that (IMO) tends to make them appear more extreme, or at least more rigid and thus pointless to debate (the English teacher in you must love the structure of that last sentence ).

I'm hardly a fan or a supporter of the Israeli state, and I'm a strong advocate of the needs for Palestinian rights and restitution. However, while I may disagree with the other side of the argument, I can appreciate the perspectives of those who hold contrary beliefs and I respect their reasons for doing so, even if I disagree with them.

That is something, in my experience with you at least, that you seem hesitant or unwilling to do in these types of discussions and I think that could be where the problem lies. It's not uncommon for people to act that way when they feel passionately about something, but in my experience it tends to stifle legitimate debate and leads to hostility and anger on all sides.

Plus, it is a bit exasperating to see the same topic drudged up over and over again. I think that plays a role in all this as well.

I hope that doesn't come across as harsh or anything, it's just my $0.02 on the whole situation.

[skel1983]

Welcome back you big daft bender.

[Youngblood]

lol yup, was me. but likely not for the reasons anyone thought. I was having a laugh with the flawed system. Was not a target on miles at all, he just happened to be there as a convenience when I began my plan. Which ultimately would have been...to hit up miles...have him freak...then give those back...then hit up Bilbo...and have him come back and lose the plot...and generally fuck with the system and the people and start a sand in peoples manginas about reps, clicks and that sorta stuff bruhaha. I figured not only could this place use a little drama...but the end result once we factored bilbo in...could be nothing but hahalarious. Btw...if anyone found themselves suddenly going up 10 or 15 reps in about 1 min...guess who. So it wasn't just about sad clicks.

What I didn't expect was miles reaction. Anyway...these are 2 PMs I sent yesterday, to both Saddo and miles letting them know it was me.

ya know boss

I was just trying to have some fun with miles. he's been quite uptight lately with the Israel stuff and was telling folks how they should work the click system, and I did that in about 3 mins, the sad clicks...was just going to give them right back as pos after a lil bit, but the poor guy flipped and up and ran off before i had chance to do anything. And to be honest, it made me LMAOOOO. But I didn't do it in spite...

Sorry for messing with your system, but you're right, at current it was only a matter of time.

sup miles

listen bud, that was me that nailed you with all those sad clicks. but i didn't do it in spite. I was having a laugh and going to just give them back as positive shortly afterwards. to be honest I noticed you were kinda up tight with the Israel hate lately and all, and my guess, prob things that run much deeper, and in my own twisted way thought i could somehow get a rise out of you and have some fun. maybe even get you to lower your guard a bit when all was said and done. it wasn't meant to be malicious nor do I have any ill will. I like you as all here at Saddos do.

I noticed the flaw in the system and planned on exploiting it...and it just happened to be you there when i did. So yea...figured you should know. Now get your ass back. Lyle had some good advice, which is to take a few days off from here..but I suggest even more if possible...as in take a few days off from the internet period. If not today or tomorrow, soon. I found it can be something that we get too attached too, and a push away a times helps us clear our heads and realize how much the words on it are insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

But love you buddy, and again, sorry for that. I didn't expect that reaction, or I never would have done that.
So come back soon.

So everyone cool now? Peace love and cool clicks?

[Violent Demise]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

[skel1983]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

[generalbulldog]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

Ouch. That gotta hurt.

[0james0]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

You are so uncool!

[El Kabong]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

You are so uncool!

Yeah!....if only there was some mechanism in which we could display how uncool he is ....some kind of "uncool button" which you could "click" and that would make him feel "sad", we would need to have some kind of "Sad Click Button" and if we had that we just might be able to curb his uncoolness by using behavioral psychology punishing him for "uncool" remarks and rewarding him for his "cool" remarks.





.......but we can't have that now because miles and Youngblood have gone and FUCKED IT ALL UP FOR EVERYONE....oh way to fucking go....bravo I hope you're proud of yourselves for being such jerks.

Saddo I think as a proper punishment for this childish and idiotic stunt everyone should be allowed to sad click miles and Youngblood as much as they want for a week just to teach them a lesson....who's with me?

[Violent Demise]

So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.

You are so uncool!

That's it. I'm outta here.

[generalbulldog]

Just out of curiosity who was the culprit that sad clicked you that many times?

Anyways this place needs an extreme leftwing commie liberal, just to balance the extreme rightwing redneck rants of Lyle. You and Lyle are like the yin and yang of this place. We can't do with both of you leaving.

[Gandalf]

Just out of curiosity who was the culprit that sad clicked you that many times?

Anyways this place needs an extreme leftwing commie liberal, just to balance the extreme rightwing redneck rants of Lyle. You and Lyle are like the yin and yang of this place. We can't do with both of you leaving.

It was Youngblood. He is a guy that I respect, but I would respect him more if he would debate with me rather than run around with a mouse.

In terms of manners me and Lyle are twins, but in terms of ideology we are political opposites.

[CFH]

Just out of curiosity who was the culprit that sad clicked you that many times?

Anyways this place needs an extreme leftwing commie liberal, just to balance the extreme rightwing redneck rants of Lyle. You and Lyle are like the yin and yang of this place. We can't do with both of you leaving.

Ahem...

[CFH]

If you're going to start topics and continually post controversial opinions on issues which people feel strongly about, you can't be surprised when some people get upset. I don't see why you'd leave over it. If it bothers you that much, do what I did when and just ignore those types of threads.

These 'poor me, goodbye' goodbye threads are fucking weak. Nobody ever actually leaves after they make one.

....Dang and that's coming from a Canadian!

Well, it's fucking true. Posters take all kinds of flak for posting all kinds of things and they rarely leave because of it. The motive behind every single one of these types of threads that I have seen isn't to actually announce a persons leaving, it's to solicit responses from other members encouraging the person that they have to stay and how great they are and blah blah blah. I'm not going to do that.

I like Miles, I like talking about boxing and music and a million other things with him. He's a valued, long-time poster and I hope he remains (as I suspect he will), but the forum won't die without him. I've been here for over 4 years now, a thousand people have come and gone in that time, and I can count one one hand the number of individuals whose leaving has been truly detrimental to this site.

Miles: I hope you decide to stick around, but you need to relax. Get high, get laid, take some pills or whatever, but just relax. Talking about politics (or in your case incessantly arguing about Israel and America with the same 4 or 5 posters) on a motherfucking boxing forum is nothing to get genuinely upset about. Neither are sad clicks. If you want to talk politics and be taken seriously, why not find a political forum where a large number of people actively debate these types of issues? I'm sure there are a million of them out there and perhaps you would find the types of discussion you are seeking there.

You are right, most people start "I'm leaving" threads to garner a response. I didn't though. I was really angry. As soon as I started a thread about Israel I got 30 sad clicks. It made me question myself. Am I so extreme that it has come to this? "I don't think I am extreme, but the clicks won't stop coming". Maybe I should exterminate myself?

Anyway, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. You are one of the forum members here who make me think. And that is always a good thing.

I'm glad you've decided to stick around Miles.