Here's a novel idea: Have Wlad publicly remove all of Haye's excuses

[mattboxingfan]

The fight would be happening if Wlad didn't f*** about with who gets what PPV. Haye wanted the UK and Wlad got Germany as well as the 50/50 split for the rest of the money produced for the fight but robocop said no. I also see that Del Boy is getting ripped off.

[TitoFan]

So you belong to the camp that actually believes that Haye sincerely wants to fight Wlad. And I'm sure there's at least a few dozen souls who actually believe that. You see... THAT'S why I think Wlad should pull out all the stops, and put an end to this nonsense. Remove all the excuses, and you leave the other guy no recourse except to say: "Yes, I'll fight you." or "No, I never had any intention of fighting you." Makes perfect sense to me.

[AdamGB]

I like the idea of Wlad sitting down and publicly accepting all of these demands so haye has no excuse to get the fight on, but from what I'm hearing most of Wlad's opponents are lucky if they even get some tickets to the fight for their camp...

It's about as big a fantasy as the population of the playboy mansion coming down with nymphomania and absailing through my window. probably about as likely.

[TitoFan]

I like the idea of Wlad sitting down and publicly accepting all of these demands so haye has no excuse to get the fight on, but from what I'm hearing most of Wlad's opponents are lucky if they even get some tickets to the fight for their camp...

It's about as big a fantasy as the population of the playboy mansion coming down with nymphomania and absailing through my window. probably about as likely.

LMAO! Careful though... might want to specify female population, as the Playboy mansion probably has it's share of poolboys.

Seriously though, I can't say for sure (and I don't know who can) exactly who demands what and why. But if I was Wlad's adviser, I'd say:

"Look Wlad... this is going to be a mega-fight. The public interest has peaked, but could begin to wane if this gets dragged on too much longer. The time to fight this guy is now. You're already a multi-millionaire. So what if Haye wants a few more PPV shares, or a better gate split? Let's get this done. Think what it will do for your legacy. As long as this guy is out there barking that you're (cough) scared of him... he's just a pesky little gnat getting some people's attention."

[generalbulldog]

Haye ain't going to get in with Wlad until he looks beatable or is on the serious decline or actually loses. He's going to be making something like 15-20 million USD fighting Harrison from the reports I read. And from what I gathered, his countrymen believes him to be the legit HW champ and that Wlad is making excuses not to fight.

So if Haye is making that much fighting bums and is recognized as the "Champ" in his country, he ain't stepping in with Wlad until 1 of those 3 things happen to Wlad.

[TitoFan]

Haye ain't going to get in with Wlad until he looks beatable or is on the serious decline or actually loses. He's going to be making something like 15-20 million USD fighting Harrison from the reports I read. And from what I gathered, his countrymen believes him to be the legit HW champ and that Wlad is making excuses not to fight.

So if Haye is making that much fighting bums and is recognized as the "Champ" in his country, he ain't stepping in with Wlad until 1 of those 3 things happen to Wlad.

And we'll continue to have the "Haye is scared of Wlad" camp, and the "Wlad ain't making a good enough offer to Haye" camp... and we'll continue to have these useless threads... blah, blah, blah... ad nauseaum... UNTIL Wlad publicly calls out Haye and, to paraphrase Marlon Brando in "The Godfather", he makes him an offer he can't refuse. And I'll go one further. If Wlad continues to allow Haye to make excuses, maybe after a while he'll deserve some of the criticism about the fight not being made.

[Hornfinger]

Stick to facts. Here are the facts.

Haye is fighting audley harrison. Shit fight but it'll earn him alot of money

Klit is fighting Derek chisora. Shit fight but it keeps wlad busy

Speculation as to why Haye vs Klit has fallen apart in negotiation is just that. Speculation. No one knows the truth you just choose to side with one or the other.

Those are the facts everything else is childish gob shite.

But please carry on.

[TitoFan]

Haye ain't going to get in with Wlad until he looks beatable or is on the serious decline or actually loses. He's going to be making something like 15-20 million USD fighting Harrison from the reports I read. And from what I gathered, his countrymen believes him to be the legit HW champ and that Wlad is making excuses not to fight.

So if Haye is making that much fighting bums and is recognized as the "Champ" in his country, he ain't stepping in with Wlad until 1 of those 3 things happen to Wlad.

And we'll continue to have the "Haye is scared of Wlad" camp, and the "Wlad ain't making a good enough offer to Haye" camp... and we'll continue to have these useless threads... blah, blah, blah... ad nauseaum... UNTIL Wlad publicly calls out Haye and, to paraphrase Marlon Brando in "The Godfather", he makes him an offer he can't refuse. And I'll go one further. If Wlad continues to allow Haye to make excuses, maybe after a while he'll deserve some of the criticism about the fight not being made.

Lest I start getting accused of being a Klit fan, let me bring back this earlier post. In truth, although I totally dislike Haye's big mouth tactics when it seems he really doesn't want any part of Wlad... I'm also losing patience with Wladimir, who I believe has the ball firmly in his court. The longer this farce goes on and Wlad is content with letting Haye shoot his mouth off without trying to strip him of all his excuses, the more disgusted I'm going to become with Wlad as well.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a combination of:
1) Haye talking a lot of bullshet but really not wanting to get into the ring with Wlad, and
2) Wlad getting caught up in the "who gets more money" and all this negotiations bullshet.

It's becoming Floyd-Pac Part 2. By the time they finally decide to fight, nobody will give a rat's ass.

[skel1983]

The fight would be happening if Wlad didn't f*** about with who gets what PPV. Haye wanted the UK and Wlad got Germany as well as the 50/50 split for the rest of the money produced for the fight but robocop said no. I also see that Del Boy is getting ripped off.

Wlad wanted 50/50 down the line no pissing about fella, Haye was the one wanting to piss about with who gets what ppv, great deal for both Wlad is the main man and the number 1.

[Hornfinger]

The fight would be happening if Wlad didn't f*** about with who gets what PPV. Haye wanted the UK and Wlad got Germany as well as the 50/50 split for the rest of the money produced for the fight but robocop said no. I also see that Del Boy is getting ripped off.

Wlad wanted 50/50 down the line no pissing about fella, Haye was the one wanting to piss about with who gets what ppv, great deal for both Wlad is the main man and the number 1.

All previous greivences aside skel, I don't think that is 100% true.