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Your posts are a joke bro. John Ruiz and Chris Arreola are Americans and they get criticized here by Americans plenty. Ruiz is also of Puerto Rican descent and gets criticized pretty badly by fellow Ricans too, Arreola is known as a fat slob. The problem is they didn't market themselves as being guys that can restore the HW division and beat the Klits easily, Haye did. And I'm sorry to say this, but it's been a few of Haye's fellow countrymen, not all because there are rational Brits, defending him left and right. I seriously laughed out loud when I joined this site, and Haye was being called the next Evander Holyfield because of the cruiserweight connection. Haye ain't no Holyfield, I'll tell anyone here that is delusional enough to think that.

You ain't no boxing fan, just a nationalistic one.
your last sentence doesnt make sense

in fact a few of your sentences dont

and your posts are jokier than mine dude

and we will never know how Haye would be viewed by americans if he was american because he isnt, i reckon tho things would be very different, maybe i am wrong maybe im not

the difference between haye and arreola is, arreola doesnt really have a chance at the very top where, as hard as it seems to be for you to admit it, haye does
No, my last sentence makes sense. A boxing fan really doesn't give a shit what nationality a fighter is, and they for sure are unbias when assessing the fighter in terms of skills, accomplishments, etc.

A prime example would be that one post of yours where you think Hatton is on par with Pacquiao and Mayweather in terms of accomplishments and skills. Now why the hell would a British fight fan would think that way?

My point exactly.

That which I bolded I disagree with. I wish this was an innocent society where boxing fans looked at a boxer for all their accomplishments before judging them or becoming a fan. Unfortunately we live in reality and the truth is, many boxing fans are fans of a fighter because of their nationality, remember when people like Pacquiao just started getting big and he had the whole Phillipines behind him? It wasnt because of his accomplishments because he hadn't had all of them yet, it was because it was one of them. Many boxing fans are biased towards fighters they like that can be because of race as well. Nationalistic fans are a big part of boxing because its your country's pride there. That's like saying all the people in the UK aren't boxing fans because they loved Ricky Hatton, or saying all Phillipino's arent boxing fans because they support Pacquiao. It's different in the US because we have so many stars that are already american, in other countries it can be very different and they support whomever their greatest star would be come, its called nationalistic pride, and it's been the selling point for many fights in the past and will continue to be as time goes on. So the statement that a "true" boxing fan doesn't care what nationality someone is and lays out everything before supporting is one of the most untrue statements when it comes to boxing. Nationalism is part of what makes some matchups so appealing because of that entire atmosphere that's created and the passion from those fans.