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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

    It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.
    If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

    I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.
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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

    It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.
    If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

    I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.
    Lol! I know. It's puzzling everybody, right?

    I don't understand it either. Maybe cuz Floyd is damn well aware that Pac was never on drugs in the first place.

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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

    It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.
    If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

    I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.
    I did say Mayweather wasn't exactly blameless in this charade. His share of the blame comes from him not accepting the fight the second time. He should of ridiculed Manny. Mock Manny. Questioned Manny for the delay as he ACCEPTS the fight. He didn't. The fucking idiot.

    Still it don't change facts. Manny accepted the same deal. No change in any of the terms. Why not accept it 8 months ago? 7 months ago? 6 months ago? 5 months ago? The deal was a great one for both fighters. It wasn't gonna get any better. And he knew that. Roach himself said he was shocked the financial terms were done so quickly without any problems. So the question remains. Why didn't he take it when first offered? It's obvious what Pac did. He needed the time to clean out.

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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    LOL. I've been gone for many months and when I come back, VD is still ranting about this blood test issue.

    PSL,

    Are you pacstraightleft? Nice to know that you're still here.

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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    finally! finally!!

    (wonder how this thread turned into a pac-mayweather debate...?)


    if this fight turns out to be as competitive as most people expected then a rematch could be next.

    i have donaire winning in an abbreviated fight though.

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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    yeah!

    that was the money punch!

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    Default Re: donaire v. montiel possibly next

    Somebody here will get a brand spanking new sig, and will have to use it for 3 months.

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