Watching UFC as a boxing fan

[mattboxingfan]

That was Dan Hardy my favorite UFC fighter I love boxing and MMA it depends on you as a person if you like fighting on a whole you should like MMA its as raw as you can get to a fighting sport. Boxing is one dimensional it isn't fighting its punching thats not real. MMA is everything mixed into one thats real, thats a fight. Any way these guys chose to do it they love the sport there in and get paid to get in shape and fight!?!? Thats why you don't hear them complaining about how brutal the sport is so what's the point in us doing it?

[Drago]

mma fighters get alot of stick for there boxing skills but the way i look at it is take the decathlon the athletes cant run as fast as the best 100 metre runners or throw as far as the best javalin throwers in the world but they do all 10 events.

[ono]

That was Dan Hardy my favorite UFC fighter I love boxing and MMA it depends on you as a person if you like fighting on a whole you should like MMA its as raw as you can get to a fighting sport. Boxing is one dimensional it isn't fighting its punching thats not real. MMA is everything mixed into one thats real, thats a fight. Any way these guys chose to do it they love the sport there in and get paid to get in shape and fight!?!? Thats why you don't hear them complaining about how brutal the sport is so what's the point in us doing it?

There's nothing remotely sporting about repeatedly punching an already unconscious bloke in the face. I think that's most people's gripe, aside from it being fairly dull.

I enjoyed the Bisping fight. That was exciting and sporting. A great combination. I enjoyed the knockout shot that was landed on Hardy, because imo he's a big mouthed silly twat. But even though i don't like him, it still wasn't good to see him pummelled twice whilst he was knocked out.

[Drago]

i believe henderson said he enjoyed punching bisping when he was on the floor ko'd

[Drago]

this is from the thesun.co.uk

When (henderson) asked if he knew Bisping was unconscious before he landed the final strike, Henderson smiled and said: "Normally I'm not that way in fights.
"I know if the guy's out, I tend to stop. I hit him hard but I got that last blow in just to shut him up a little bit."

[ono]

this is from the thesun.co.uk

When (henderson) asked if he knew Bisping was unconscious before he landed the final strike, Henderson smiled and said: "Normally I'm not that way in fights.
"I know if the guy's out, I tend to stop. I hit him hard but I got that last blow in just to shut him up a little bit."

I remember that. Half serves Bisping right for circling onto Henderson's right hand all night. But it was well uncalled for.

[Mar]

Cage fighting and the like just ain't my thing. But i can see how so many do like it. I dont watch kickboxing or karate either for all that matters. I've been to a couple of the events out here, and found that it's more about walking around and acting tough than it is actually watching the fights but to each thier own.

[Beanflicker]

There is a terrible misconception that MMA is more dangerous than boxing. This is completely false. Yes, there are times when MMA can be barbaric.

But think about this: what would have happened if the Hardy (the Brit with the Mohawk the original poster mentioned) bout would have been a boxing match? After having his brain rattled, he would have been given a 10 count to get up. He would have made the count, and depending on his recovery time, he could have suffered another several minutes (or rounds) of blows to the head.

Although the MMA fininsh looks more brutal and even cowardly, the fallen fighter was better off taking the one or two extra punches on the ground. Those ground punches are not nearly as hard as a standing punch, A) because you can't put your whole body into it and B) because fighters hold back because if they miss, it means a broken hand on the mat.

[DaxxKahn]

OK then as KS pointed out in his other thread that this keeps kicking over here when clicking on it so I am going to make this a 2 for 1 post....

Boxing IMO is the superior sport and I will take a boxing match over 10 MMA bouts anyday of the week....MMA though is more like fighting you would come across on the street with a little more organization to it so it does have its appeal and I do watch it often...Guys like AS, GSP, BJ Penn (Beofre he faded) etc are masters of what they do and make it look like the art form it is ment to be but in such a scientific smooth way due to their superior ability...

Now with that being said....

IMO Bute swhould fight the winner of AA/Froch next.....Unless Ward can manage to sign ASAP...If he can not get either of those 2 bouts....Try the WBO champion Si&^%$#@@ from Germany (Can spell the guys name for shit so excuse the marks not meant to be insert for any ill fated cure words on the fighter)....After becoming the owner of 2 belts fight Pascal after he faces off with Hopkins (Who Pascal should beat if he gets a fair shake on the cards)

[ManicHands80]

I honestly like MMA. I'll admit however, some of the matches are boring, but a lot of them are quite interesting to watch. Whereas boxing is just one martial art form, MMA has a variety of different martial art forms you learn how to utilize, as well as learn how to defend against. It could actually be quite interesting to watch how an opponent fuses together boxing and wrestling to defeat someone who fights using judo and brazilian jujitsu.

[Poom]

people talking about if he had proper boxing form he wouldnt have got hit :

you stand differently in mma as you have to be able to get ready for take down defence etc too,

it might not look like it but most the MMA guys could hang with pro boxers in the ring, they just looks sloppy in the cage because there is other things going on like standing so people can't get a clinch on you, standing so you can kick and defend kicks , also Parrying with tiny gloves is totally different, covering up is very difficult because your gloves are small ,

[mattboxingfan]

That was Dan Hardy my favorite UFC fighter I love boxing and MMA it depends on you as a person if you like fighting on a whole you should like MMA its as raw as you can get to a fighting sport. Boxing is one dimensional it isn't fighting its punching thats not real. MMA is everything mixed into one thats real, thats a fight. Any way these guys chose to do it they love the sport there in and get paid to get in shape and fight!?!? Thats why you don't hear them complaining about how brutal the sport is so what's the point in us doing it?

There's nothing remotely sporting about repeatedly punching an already unconscious bloke in the face. I think that's most people's gripe, aside from it being fairly dull.

I enjoyed the Bisping fight. That was exciting and sporting. A great combination. I enjoyed the knockout shot that was landed on Hardy, because imo he's a big mouthed silly twat. But even though i don't like him, it still wasn't good to see him pummelled twice whilst he was knocked out.

If we go by that then theres nothing sporting in seeing a fighter get dominated for 12 rounds so he is hospitalized or a late stoppage causing damage to a fighter. Its a joke that BOXING fans can just dismiss a sport because its so brutal! And boxing isnt? Also Its dull because you don't appreciate it and highly likely you don't understand half of it for example the ground game or up against the fence in the clinch.

[global]

It's a bit unfair to say people aren't understanding it because they think it is boring. What is there to really understand about the ground game? They get on the ground and wrestle around for a dominant position and wait the round out, bludgeon the opponent or try to use a choke or submission to make them quit. I wouldn't agree with someone who says that those things take no skill but that has no bearing on whether or not I want to watch it. I think it is a bit of a joke to assume not enjoying something equals not understanding it.

[ono]

That was Dan Hardy my favorite UFC fighter I love boxing and MMA it depends on you as a person if you like fighting on a whole you should like MMA its as raw as you can get to a fighting sport. Boxing is one dimensional it isn't fighting its punching thats not real. MMA is everything mixed into one thats real, thats a fight. Any way these guys chose to do it they love the sport there in and get paid to get in shape and fight!?!? Thats why you don't hear them complaining about how brutal the sport is so what's the point in us doing it?

There's nothing remotely sporting about repeatedly punching an already unconscious bloke in the face. I think that's most people's gripe, aside from it being fairly dull.

I enjoyed the Bisping fight. That was exciting and sporting. A great combination. I enjoyed the knockout shot that was landed on Hardy, because imo he's a big mouthed silly twat. But even though i don't like him, it still wasn't good to see him pummelled twice whilst he was knocked out.

If we go by that then theres nothing sporting in seeing a fighter get dominated for 12 rounds so he is hospitalized or a late stoppage causing damage to a fighter. Its a joke that BOXING fans can just dismiss a sport because its so brutal! And boxing isnt? Also Its dull because you don't appreciate it and highly likely you don't understand half of it for example the ground game or up against the fence in the clinch.

I agree, but when a fighter is getting dominated (in boxing), he can actually still defend himself. He can also choose to quit, and the referee and his corner can also pull him out. On rare occasions where this doesn't happen, you have to point the finger at the referee and/or the fighter's corner - not the sport.

When a fighter is getting pounded in the face whilst he's unconscious, and that smug wanker Joe Rogan is creaming himself over it, the unconscious fighter has no choice but to take the punishment. The sad part is how eager Condit was to 'ground and pound' an all ready clearly knocked out Dan Hardy. Same with the Henderson - Bisping fight. What's even sadder is the little asbo fuckers in the 'Tap Out' t-shirts in the crowd giving it the gang signs, delighted that they've finally found a sport that represents them as a person.

Utter cringe worthy.

As for the 'not understanding it', see Global's post. Pretty much sums up my feelings.

[killersheep]

That was Dan Hardy my favorite UFC fighter I love boxing and MMA it depends on you as a person if you like fighting on a whole you should like MMA its as raw as you can get to a fighting sport. Boxing is one dimensional it isn't fighting its punching thats not real. MMA is everything mixed into one thats real, thats a fight. Any way these guys chose to do it they love the sport there in and get paid to get in shape and fight!?!? Thats why you don't hear them complaining about how brutal the sport is so what's the point in us doing it?

As I said those guys know what they're signing up for, they should have the freedom to put themselves in that position of danger if they choose.

I am not surprised that I was wrong when I stated that noone had died. That's fine that people follow MMA, not my cup of tea, and I expect more deaths to come.