So How Good was Marvin Hagler Exactly?

[Dark Lord Al]

Prime for Prime Hagler beats Monzon by late ko or UD .
Monzon was just to robotic , Marvin would have beaten him for sure.

[Fran@myboxingcoach]

I would have to lean toward Marvin also, but that's not to say that Monzon couldn't have won! Check out the Willie 'The Worm' fight; similar build/height to Monzon but not nearly as intense and Willie had troubled Marvin in previous encounters. If it would have happened with both fighters at their peak then it would have been the war of wars. As for the right hand, Hagler was an incredibly versatile and clever fighter and he would have dealt with Carlos' right hand by simply moving to Monzon's left behind the metronomic piston of a double and triple jab.

Marvin by late KO or points.

Top thread by the way boys, as always I find some real boxing brains on Saddo. Long may it continue!!!!

[DaxxKahn]

I always looked at Marvin as one of the few fighters in history you never need to question how good he really was or if he was over rated etc....Hagler fought in a very strong era of MWTS he could take a punch like very few and he could dish out the punishment just as well if not better...Marvin in the clutch never fell apart and he never backed down....

The punches Hagler took from John Mugabi would have retired most fighters and made Hagler piss pure blood for almost a week straight.....When Hearns had the better of him Hagler did what a champion does and makes you come take what belonged to him he was not laying down be it quiet or otherwise....

Hagler was simply put Hagler and the moniker "Marvelous" fit perfectly...Always a gentleman, always in shape, always ready to fight who was next in line without a question or complaint....

After the Leonard fight Hagler walked away from the sport rightfully so because he gave boxing what it asked for in a champion, fighter and representive of the game...In return he was screwed and treated like another fighter to help the Leonard bandwagon keep going and in losing was not even given credit for the performance while he deserved to still hold his title..... almost as if he was robbed called the police and they arrested him.

Hagler would have beaten Monzon, Hopkins and Jones on will alone......Perhaps the greatest MW to ever wear the title

[generalbulldog]

Monzon liked to come into his fights with a half ass training camp. If he did that in a hypothetical matchup with Hagler, Monzon ain't walking out of that ring as champ or with his senses intact.

[DaxxKahn]

Monzon liked to come into his fights with a half ass training camp. If he did that in a hypothetical matchup with Hagler, Monzon ain't walking out of that ring as champ or with his senses intact.

Yeah he was infamous for being a party animal be it during training or not....

With that being said imagine how much better would ha have been if he was always in top shape?.....

[Nameless]

Monzon was a great fighter, Hagler was a total beast. I go with the Marvelous one by a K.O around the 7 against a tired and smothered Monzon.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Monzon was undefeated in his last 81 fights, had power in both hands and possessed one of the most lethal right hands in boxing history. 59 Ko's! His size, power and boxing ability (Monzon was no slugger) would see him win a late round stoppage or a UD over a frustrated Hagler.
I think Monzon's low proifile in the US goes against him in discussions like this, overall i think you will find that Monzon is ranked the number one Middleweight of all time. What a fight it would have been though, it was talked about and nearly came off. Monzon was 36 when he retired.

[Syntax Error]

IMHO, Hagler belongs in the top 5 MWs of all-time.

The only weakness I think he had was that he could be out psyched at times & that sometimes led to him paying his opponents too much respect (I refer specifically to the Duran & Leonard fights).

The only MWs that I could feasibly rank (if pushed) above him are Monzon, Greb & Ketchel.

[LBSCFC]

Monzon was a great fighter, Hagler was a total beast. I go with the Marvelous one by a K.O around the 7 against a tired and smothered Monzon.

i agree. great post. hagler was also one of the smartest fighters I ever saw. great chin, durable, underrated boxing skills and power. at his peak as close the to the perfect fighter you could get.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

how good was he?......a true legend, tough as nails, power in each hand with iron chin......in his prime in was quite simply Marvelous