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    I've found that people who say "I love boxing" means they love Tyson and have never watched a fight below heavyweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've found that people who say "I love boxing" means they love Tyson and have never watched a fight below heavyweight.
    Yeah over here, you can catch a Tyson fight almost every day of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've found that people who say "I love boxing" means they love Tyson and have never watched a fight below heavyweight.
    Tyson Fury? Didn't know he was that popular over there.

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    I know a lot of people who watch it when it is a big event and quite a couple who are following it and have a very decent knowledge about the sport, Boxing is getting very very popular in Quebec, especially around Montreal and I have a couple of friends who are giving it an interested eyes, I would say that the real boom started like 5-6 years ago and the wave's still pretty strong around here.
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    At work i have one guy who watches a lot of fights like myself. Not too many people into boxing, or any that have any real knowledge. So if i want to talk boxing i talk to him or my wifes cousin, who i've been to a few fights with. Hell my wife knows more about boxing than my co-workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I know a lot of people who watch it when it is a big event and quite a couple who are following it and have a very decent knowledge about the sport, Boxing is getting very very popular in Quebec, especially around Montreal and I have a couple of friends who are giving it an interested eyes, I would start that the real boom started like 5-6 years ago and the wave's still pretty strong around here.
    yup this is true...and for Ontario also, although not as strong as Que. (I do feel the need to correct a statement made a while back from you about for our recent medal grabs at nationals tho...as we did beat you guys )

    No matter what province it is though, ON or Que, the interest is at an exponentially growing high, as are the number of new people walking through the gym doors to take it up as result of it. Expect big things down the road and lots of new names in the next 10 years.

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    Casual fans know Amir, Hatton, Galzaghe and Haye. Maybe Audley but that is probably all.
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    Don't really have any friends that are into boxing and most think I'm f*ckin lame when I stay home on a saturday night to watch some fight. Most everyone knows the name mayweather, pac and odl yet really most have never seen a fight of theirs. A few people know the klitschkos,pavlik. However mention the names marquez, bradley, katsidis and all you would get is blank stares. A few friends are big time into mma and have been at their house a few times to watch the big ufc cards, and usually they only like the fights where a dude gets knocked out, and I'm like you'd get a lot more of that in boxing. Boxing in recent years just has been marketed all wrong and espn rarely reports on it so it doesn't help the cause.

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    Out here theres a certain mentality amounst casual fight viewers, In pubs many are either after watching someone get ktfo in a heavyweight match or they are flag waving cause a localAussie is going for some two bit world belt.

    I like to go to the RSL's Returned Services Leagues to watch fights that are bought in, because you get better real conversations with much older fans.

    Trouble is two of the older ones i used to go with,both ex pros, are now dead and the others havent got it in them any more through health issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
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    I know a lot of people who watch it when it is a big event and quite a couple who are following it and have a very decent knowledge about the sport, Boxing is getting very very popular in Quebec, especially around Montreal and I have a couple of friends who are giving it an interested eyes, I would start that the real boom started like 5-6 years ago and the wave's still pretty strong around here.
    yup this is true...and for Ontario also, although not as strong as Que. (I do feel the need to correct a statement made a while back from you about for our recent medal grabs at nationals tho...as we did beat you guys )

    No matter what province it is though, ON or Que, the interest is at an exponentially growing high, as are the number of new people walking through the gym doors to take it up as result of it. Expect big things down the road and lots of new names in the next 10 years.
    Did I said once that Quebec is winning most of it on the national level? If so I really don't recall. Beside, I am not much of a big patriot as you probably did notice it, normally I'll only vote for the guys from Quebec if they are not arsse (otherwise fuck the frenchie thing) because "they come from here" and you can bet on it that I'll cheer for you no matter which frenchie you're fighting
    But yeah, Boxing is huge in Quebec, probably the province where it's the biggest in Canada and with the great matches that are starting to happen here, Montreal is getting like one of the boxing's mecca, which is very good. Ontario starts to develop fairly well too, Steve Molitor has been a very good figure over here to foster the interest and I think that it's a great thing
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    I remember gatti and lewis would not fight in Canada because the tax was high but Montreal is where it is all happening at the moment. What has changed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I remember gatti and lewis would not fight in Canada because the tax was high but Montreal is where it is all happening at the moment. What has changed?
    I can't answer that as not sure. But I suspect that the UFC may have even helped promote the fighting arts with GSP. And then having up and comers in boxing like Bute, Pascal, Lemieux, the people there promoting them well...people have just caught an interest.

    total guess tho.

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    Same really.

    I remember when Calzaghe was about to fight Lacy and this bloke at work went 'Calzaghe's going to get knocked out', to which i responded 'How many Jeff Lacy fights have you seen?' The answer was 0.

    I tend to watch fights with my old man. Only have 1 mate who's proper into it. Have a few more who are trying though. But prefer watching fights with my Dad.
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    If you want to see why in boxing things struggle, is because it seems to take a while to builld a reputation in boxing and then even longer to fight the best.

    The super six is an indication.

    THAT is how hard it is to get the best of the division to fight each other consistently every few months.

    The thing is MMA has more of a "quick fix" people can fall in love with a fighter on the up and coming and you can follow their career with an organization, and they build a reputation a lot faster and the fan feels more inclined to follow them.

    What boxing needs to do is start re-marketing itself, because right now it's sort of promoting itself like the old school sport, not the MUST SEE sport. And the MUST SEE sport is what the casual viewer is into, the viewer wants to know "Why do I want to see this?" And if they don't feel inclined to, then they won't.

    Boxing needs more people in it that capture the imagination of audiences and has done a terrible job marketing their people as of late.

    Let's face it, once Pacquiao, and Mayweather retire, boxing is going to be screwed, because they aren't really spending time building new stars. There is no other real "stars" that have crossover appeal that can be translated to boxing right now.

    Boxing needs to do a better job of marketing more fighters, since the good ones now are sort of around the same era within themselves and not one is being pushed as the "person to watch" which is what boxing needs right now. It's promoted like the "old lion" so the casual fan is going to feel like, why get into it? For more than one or two fighters.

    Whats killing boxing is, the lack of big fights, and the lack of good marketing. If boxing spent marketing time on young talent and built them up in shows like the contender but it was sponsored on a TV station like HBO or like Showtime or something, that lead to a national TV fight between the two winners then it may turn into something, boxing needs to market its young stars as the future and put these guys against each other on national TV. Not let them all build their reputations off camera and then put them on TV like "care about this guy" the only people that will are those that followed them or hardcore boxing fans that follow everything. But the casual guy won't go out and research something, they need it put in front of them. And that's what needs to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    If you want to see why in boxing things struggle, is because it seems to take a while to builld a reputation in boxing and then even longer to fight the best.

    The super six is an indication.

    THAT is how hard it is to get the best of the division to fight each other consistently every few months.

    The thing is MMA has more of a "quick fix" people can fall in love with a fighter on the up and coming and you can follow their career with an organization, and they build a reputation a lot faster and the fan feels more inclined to follow them.

    What boxing needs to do is start re-marketing itself, because right now it's sort of promoting itself like the old school sport, not the MUST SEE sport. And the MUST SEE sport is what the casual viewer is into, the viewer wants to know "Why do I want to see this?" And if they don't feel inclined to, then they won't.

    Boxing needs more people in it that capture the imagination of audiences and has done a terrible job marketing their people as of late.

    Let's face it, once Pacquiao, and Mayweather retire, boxing is going to be screwed, because they aren't really spending time building new stars. There is no other real "stars" that have crossover appeal that can be translated to boxing right now.

    Boxing needs to do a better job of marketing more fighters, since the good ones now are sort of around the same era within themselves and not one is being pushed as the "person to watch" which is what boxing needs right now. It's promoted like the "old lion" so the casual fan is going to feel like, why get into it? For more than one or two fighters.

    Whats killing boxing is, the lack of big fights, and the lack of good marketing. If boxing spent marketing time on young talent and built them up in shows like the contender but it was sponsored on a TV station like HBO or like Showtime or something, that lead to a national TV fight between the two winners then it may turn into something, boxing needs to market its young stars as the future and put these guys against each other on national TV. Not let them all build their reputations off camera and then put them on TV like "care about this guy" the only people that will are those that followed them or hardcore boxing fans that follow everything. But the casual guy won't go out and research something, they need it put in front of them. And that's what needs to happen.
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