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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    ahhh somethings never change....I can see in my several months absence that the boxing board is still having its monthly bash mma thread. I've argued on this far too much but I will leave you with a link listing every boxing fatality since 1732 through 2007. If we say MMA as we know it started circa 1990 then boxing has 90 something fatalities through 2007 to MMA's 3. I'd imagine if we added the last three years boxing would be over 100 to MMA's 3. Hard to argue MMA's barbaric nature against those numbers. Entertainment value is subjective but to argue the athleticism, talent or sportsmanship of most MMA fighters is pretty silly to me.

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    Obviously I have no idea whether that is an assault rifle, or not, as I am a civilised human being.

    <edit> and this was all before I noticed that you misappropriate George Orwell. As I said, "next".
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    Nothing like personal attacks to strengthen your own arguments. Its a National Match Springfield M1A in a JAE stock with a high powered scope that I use for competition shooting and some hunting. Not sure why owning it and knowing what it is makes me uncivilized but way to stay on topic. Considering that Orwell was a veteran and by all accounts served very well I think my use of his quote is very fitting for me. Some reason you feel the necessity to call me out though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    Nothing like personal attacks to strengthen your own arguments. Its a National Match Springfield M1A in a JAE stock with a high powered scope that I use for competition shooting and some hunting. Not sure why owning it and knowing what it is makes me uncivilized but way to stay on topic. Considering that Orwell was a veteran and by all accounts served very well I think my use of his quote is very fitting for me. Some reason you feel the necessity to call me out though?
    But also a great, big, giant socialist which I'm guessing you're not?

    Although, of course, apologies if you are.

    My original argument was simply about the amount of protection given to a downed/prone fighter in MMA. Stats lie, we all know that, how many more boxing matches are there than MMA?

    It may be a personal belief but I don't like seeing people smacked in the head when they're laying on the ground gasping for air.
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    While I wouldn't vote old George into a political office it stands to say I would gladly have stood shoulder to shoulder with him on the battlefield. Anyway....

    Like I said entertainment value is subjective. But I think differentiating Briggs taking a severe beating for four more rounds than he probably should have and a downed fighter in MMA taking a couple of extra shots is kind of splitting hairs. You don't have to like the sport but to feign distaste due to its savageness compared to boxing just isn't supported by the numbers IMHO. Hell even American Football has much more fatalities than MMA.
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    aint most deaths from combat sports from continued punishement? if so u gotta say boxing is more dangerous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    While I wouldn't vote old George into a political office it stands to say I would gladly have stood shoulder to shoulder with him on the battlefield. Anyway....
    I doubt you'd see ol' Georgie boy anywhere near the front line. ;-) Ok, I'll call a truce on any political wrangling.

    The Briggs fight was bad. I'll admit. I'm not saying that boxing can't do more, but I am saying that boxing has tried (or has been forced) to make the sport as safe as possible - I don't see that MMA is doing the same.

    <edit> and look at the ol' Texas boy in my avatar. Yeeha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    While I wouldn't vote old George into a political office it stands to say I would gladly have stood shoulder to shoulder with him on the battlefield. Anyway....
    I doubt you'd see ol' Georgie boy anywhere near the front line. ;-) Ok, I'll call a truce on any political wrangling.

    The Briggs fight was bad. I'll admit. I'm not saying that boxing can't do more, but I am saying that boxing has tried (or has been forced) to make the sport as safe as possible - I don't see that MMA is doing the same.

    <edit> and look at the ol' Texas boy in my avatar. Yeeha!
    i think ufc has helped make it safer with no head butts or stamping on downed oponents or kicks to the head when opponent down

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