Sometimes we forget how bitter losers are!
Sometimes we forget how bitter losers are!
You can picked apart any guy's career. No fighter in boxing history has a 100% solid bulletproof resume that can't be picked apart. Ali is one of my favorite fighters ever to watch, but if I want I can picked apart his resume like it's nothing.
Cooper I: Ali was knocked down and stunned when he got up, Dundee bought time with ripping open Ali's glove and giving him smelling salts which are illegal in the UK to revive him.
Liston I,II: Fixed fight for both with the rumor that the mob and Black Muslims determining the outcome of the fight, and there was question to what exactly was Liston's age, there are sources that say Liston was in his mid 30's.
Chuvalo: Overrated Canadian bum that took a good shot
Cleveland Williams: shot fighter that didn't deserved a shot at the title.
Floyd Patterson I,II: A blownup MW that was chinny as hell as a HW.
Frazier I, III: Lost to Frazier in the 1st, he wanted to quit in the 3rd fight after the 14th round but Frazier's corner threw in the towel first.
Foreman: Big George had suffered a cut prior to the fight, was a 1 dimensional crude fighter that was sort of chinny.
Norton 1,2,3: Some say Ali lost 2 out of 3, and possibly all 3. People said he got gift decisions in those fights.
Spinks: A mediocre HW that got a shot at the title with only 7 or 8 pro fights and beat him. ALi came back to beat him in the 2nd fight, again a mediocre HW, so not impressive.
See, how easy it is to pick apart a fighter's resume? I don't believe that about Ali, he is the greatest HW. I can do it with Marvin Hagler too, who happens to be my favorite fighter ever.![]()
Not only that but 9/10 Foreman would thrash Ali.
I like him, but someone was right when they said Ali is one of he most overrated boxers in history.
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Gonna watch Pac vs morales 1 and also pac vs marquez just to remind myself......
Be sure to consider the blood coming from the eyelid of Pacquaio due to a headbutt and see how he was fighting with his heart.
Compare it with Pac vs Morales 2 when he was almost at his best ( no blood flowing to his eyes) and you would see the difference when Pac is not distracted and when he is distracted.
You will also see how great he is considering that many would call him one dimensional at that time.Just watch the two fights without bias and you will understand what I'm trying to say.
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Ali worked on winning in and out of the ring. His opponents wern't quite as smart the fight was on weeks prior to the event. He'd work on them from inside their heads as well as from outside their heads on the day.
It all allowed him to get in there and move freely.
You have to hand it to him he found his own way to the top.
He had a chin and a resolve too.
Ali is the most over hyped fighter in history?!!!!!!! A comment by someone who doesn't know jack about boxing. As far as when exactly Pac's prime was....it's just as important to ask when the prime of the fighters he has faced where. AGAIN...the best fighter he has faced who was in his prime was Marquez...and Pac had a draw and a controversial narrow victory against him. He faced Morales and Barrera at their primes and past their primes. I give him props and credit for facing those fighters. But his recent victories, the ones that many have said have made him an all time great, have been greatly over hyped.
There is no need to ask when the prime of the fighters Manny has faced where, I have already read it a thousand times in this forum that most of his opponents are past their prime. I just don't remember reading any mention of when Pacquiao's prime is.
You still haven't answered the question. When do you think Manny reached his prime and when did it start going down, or is he still in his prime?
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