Manny Pacquiao sometimes we forget just how good he really is

[Hornfinger]

Gonna watch Pac vs morales 1 and also pac vs marquez just to remind myself......

[brucelee]

Gonna watch Pac vs morales 1 and also pac vs marquez just to remind myself......

Be sure to consider the blood coming from the eyelid of Pacquaio due to a headbutt and see how he was fighting with his heart.

Compare it with Pac vs Morales 2 when he was almost at his best ( no blood flowing to his eyes) and you would see the difference when Pac is not distracted and when he is distracted.

You will also see how great he is considering that many would call him one dimensional at that time. Just watch the two fights without bias and you will understand what I'm trying to say.

[Hornfinger]

Gonna watch Pac vs morales 1 and also pac vs marquez just to remind myself......

Be sure to consider the blood coming from the eyelid of Pacquaio due to a headbutt and see how he was fighting with his heart.

Compare it with Pac vs Morales 2 when he was almost at his best ( no blood flowing to his eyes) and you would see the difference when Pac is not distracted and when he is distracted.

You will also see how great he is considering that many would call him one dimensional at that time. Just watch the two fights without bias and you will understand what I'm trying to say.

I call it pre and post roids and also pre and post morales being shot.

[milmascaras1]

they say that every great fighter on the downside has one great fight left. morales comes to mind when he beat pacquiao the first time. morales looked on the downside when he lost to barrera. he definitely looked shot against raheem and against pacquiao II & III and david diaz. i think what did him in was his street fighter mentality in which he needlessly engaged in many toe to toe wars. he was what he was, a fighter and entertainer first. maybe if he would have taken a different approach like boxing instead of having so many wars, he wouldn't have become as good as he became. another thing is that he wasn't very disciplined with his weight between fights. he killed himself to make weight numerous times and it showed in the latter part of his career.

[Andre]

they say that every great fighter on the downside has one great fight left. morales comes to mind when he beat pacquiao the first time. morales looked on the downside when he lost to barrera. he definitely looked shot against raheem and against pacquiao II & III and david diaz. i think what did him in was his street fighter mentality in which he needlessly engaged in many toe to toe wars. he was what he was, a fighter and entertainer first. maybe if he would have taken a different approach like boxing instead of having so many wars, he wouldn't have become as good as he became. another thing is that he wasn't very disciplined with his weight between fights. he killed himself to make weight numerous times and it showed in the latter part of his career.

Yep, a heart to match his chin; The all Mexican formula.

[Pavlik]

Gonna watch Pac vs morales 1 and also pac vs marquez just to remind myself......

Don't forget the Morales rematch and rubber match to that. To top it off consider Marquez fighting PAC right now.

[zhubin]

Ali is the most over hyped fighter in history?!!!!!!! A comment by someone who doesn't know jack about boxing. As far as when exactly Pac's prime was....it's just as important to ask when the prime of the fighters he has faced where. AGAIN...the best fighter he has faced who was in his prime was Marquez...and Pac had a draw and a controversial narrow victory against him. He faced Morales and Barrera at their primes and past their primes. I give him props and credit for facing those fighters. But his recent victories, the ones that many have said have made him an all time great, have been greatly over hyped.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Ali is the most over hyped fighter in history?!!!!!!! A comment by someone who doesn't know jack about boxing. As far as when exactly Pac's prime was....it's just as important to ask when the prime of the fighters he has faced where. AGAIN...the best fighter he has faced who was in his prime was Marquez...and Pac had a draw and a controversial narrow victory against him. He faced Morales and Barrera at their primes and past their primes. I give him props and credit for facing those fighters. But his recent victories, the ones that many have said have made him an all time great, have been greatly over hyped.

There is no need to ask when the prime of the fighters Manny has faced where, I have already read it a thousand times in this forum that most of his opponents are past their prime. I just don't remember reading any mention of when Pacquiao's prime is.

You still haven't answered the question. When do you think Manny reached his prime and when did it start going down, or is he still in his prime?