Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

[TitoFan]

I wanted a devastating KO, but Pac has more compassion than I do.

I wanted an early KO, then I realize 12 rounds of punishment from pac is better

I had the same evil thought myself after the fight.

[Majesty]

Actually, it's more like... that fight made most people believe Floyd shit his pants last night.

So why would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd more scared of him. When what Mosley did to Margarito was worse and he actually knocked him out and didn't get hit as much as Pacquiao did. Mosley dominated Margarito in a worse way then Pacquiao did and that didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. So why suddenly would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd not want to fight him? I don't get the logic there.

Mayweather while out box Manny like he does anyone else, beating Margarito doesn't change thing. I mean come on Mosley beat Margarito quicker Manny did so not like he did anything special.

He deformed Marg's face. That's special enough to me.

more special then not taking any punishment and knocking him out?

Ofcourse. Pac broke Marg's facial bone. Pac inflicted more damage to Marg than Mosely did. The fight should've stopped 2 rounds early. Did you see Pac gesture when he looked at the ref? He had sympathy for him. He basically stopped punishing Marg. He could've knocked him out, but he chose not to.

So basically you're saying Pacquiao showed mercy while Mosley showed killer instinct and didn't care and just knocked out Margarito until the ref pulled him off.

If anything it showed Mosley would go for the kill and if in Pacquiao's position would have knocked him out. While Pacquiao "chose not to". Again, I don't see why this would make Floyd less inclined to fight Pacquiao.

[Rantcatrat]

Taeth, you need to resign yourself that the Manny/Floyd fight isn't going to happen for the next while if ever. Let's pick up this conversation about Manny v. Floyd when they sign the fight. Otherwise, it is irrelevant. There is a better chance Manny will fight someone before Floyd anyway. We all know you are the biggest Floyd fan on the boards. We get it already.

As a Floyd fan, which is the best fight out there for Manny to add to his legacy? Who do you want to see Manny fight? Berto, Bradley/Alexander, Martinez/Williams, Marquez?

[Gandalf]

Actually, it's more like... that fight made most people believe Floyd shit his pants last night.

So why would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd more scared of him. When what Mosley did to Margarito was worse and he actually knocked him out and didn't get hit as much as Pacquiao did. Mosley dominated Margarito in a worse way then Pacquiao did and that didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. So why suddenly would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd not want to fight him? I don't get the logic there.

Mayweather while out box Manny like he does anyone else, beating Margarito doesn't change thing. I mean come on Mosley beat Margarito quicker Manny did so not like he did anything special.

He deformed Marg's face. That's special enough to me.

more special then not taking any punishment and knocking him out?

Ofcourse. Pac broke Marg's facial bone. Pac inflicted more damage to Marg than Mosely did. The fight should've stopped 2 rounds early. Did you see Pac gesture when he looked at the ref? He had sympathy for him. He basically stopped punishing Marg. He could've knocked him out, but he chose not to.

Exactly, Pac eased up toward the end as Margarito was looking ever more like the Chinese John Merrick.

I think this was more impressive than Mosley's win because Marg was in shape and came to fight. No massive weight loss and no shellshock from being caught with loaded hand wraps. Margarito came to fight and prove a point and got mashed for it. I think this version of Margarito would have done better against Mosley too. Margarito was here to fight.

[El Kabong]

Well Pac seemingly "taking it easy" on Margarito could (and this may be a bit of a stretch) be seen as a threat to Floyd's pride...I mean I'm sure Floyd would rather not lose and obviously with each fight I see of the both of these guys they both look amazing, but if Floyd was to lose I am sure he'd rather lose close on points, or get KO'd quick, being beat down like Margarito got beat down would be very humbling for a fighter that shows very little humility.

[Taeth]

Actually, it's more like... that fight made most people believe Floyd shit his pants last night.

So why would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd more scared of him. When what Mosley did to Margarito was worse and he actually knocked him out and didn't get hit as much as Pacquiao did. Mosley dominated Margarito in a worse way then Pacquiao did and that didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. So why suddenly would Pacquiao beating Margarito make Floyd not want to fight him? I don't get the logic there.

Mayweather while out box Manny like he does anyone else, beating Margarito doesn't change thing. I mean come on Mosley beat Margarito quicker Manny did so not like he did anything special.

He deformed Marg's face. That's special enough to me.

more special then not taking any punishment and knocking him out?

Ofcourse. Pac broke Marg's facial bone. Pac inflicted more damage to Marg than Mosely did. The fight should've stopped 2 rounds early. Did you see Pac gesture when he looked at the ref? He had sympathy for him. He basically stopped punishing Marg. He could've knocked him out, but he chose not to.

There is no proof Manny could have knocked Margarito out, the fact is that Mosley hit Margarito a lot less shots, and he knocked Margarito out, Manny hurt Margarito to the body, but never upstairs. There is no question who is the stronger and harder puncher between Manny and Mosley, I think that Manny is able to inflict more damage with punches in bunches, because he throws much better combinations more often, but if anyone is going to land one punch on a guy and do real damage it's Shane.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Pac did hurt Margarito badly with a right hook.

[Mr140]

To me Mayweather beating Mosley is better then anything Pac has done lately. Also i am not a fan of Mayweather but Pac wanted nothing to do with Mosley but Mayweather did fight him.

[Mr140]

I mean its getting pretty dumb pac fights guys who are coming off career ending beatings yet gets hardly any flack. But then people come in and say Mosley was shot vs Mayweather when they fought. Mosley might not of been prime but he was the main man at welter at the time and coming off wins.

[youcrazyboy]

In a word Yes. Especially when Floyd was ever so closed to being dropped by Sugar Shane. I don't think Manny is capable of being in a bad fight, even against Mayweather. I hope it happens, is brilliant, and Manny wins a split decision, setting up a possible trilogy. But hey, I'm an optimist...

Before their last fights I was steadfast that Floyd's defence was impenetrable. I'm not so sure now.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

I remember after Floyd beat Marquez people were starting to retract their belief that Manny would just run rampant on Floyd if they fought. Then Manny faced COtto and Clottey and that instilled the same enthusiasm in his fans until Floyd beat up Mosley whom many felt both Manny and Floyd were ducking. THen Manny faced the guy who Floyd has been given the most flack for not fighting in Antonio Margarito, and Manny has looked great, but does anyone think that Floyd wouldn't have pitched an absolute shut out against a guy as ordinary in skill as Antonio?

To me Manny has been hand fed the same makeup of opponent since moving up in weight. They have given him guys who allow Manny to make the most of his style and his speed. Diaz, ODLH(weight-drained), Hatton, Cotto, CLottey, and Margarito are all guys who come forward, and with the exception of a younger Oscar and Clottey they are all easy to hit. I will be the first to give Manny credit for looking absolutely amazing and being so tireless in training so that he could give the kind of performances he did, but these were all guys right there in front of him, and when anyone stands just right there in front of Manny they are going to lose. The one guy actually of all of them that was IMO the most impressive win for Manny was against Hatton, because he actually has fast footwork and he uses angles coming in, but he couldn't overcome those huge mistakes that he makes against southpaws in particular, and Manny was the absolutely antithesis of the type of guy hatton could get away with those mistakes again. But these guys made Manny look like a non-stop punching machine with power, counter punching ability, a great chin, and great footwork, but I would like to disagree to a certain extent this belief. I think it's curious that Manny was able to throw more punches than he ever did earlier in his career against guys so much bigger than him, but then I looked a little more closely. Manny's angles, combinations all came when his opponents were rooted to the ground. When Manny was dancing around these guys, they were simply following him, and standing their ground. Manny was basically given a punching bag that followed him around, and nobody looks faster or better on a heavybag than Manny Pacquiao. Go back and watch Pacquiao-marquez II and see Marquez either beat Manny to the punch with his right hand or take a step back to get just out of range of Manny's attack. This is from a guy who isn't even a particularly good defensive fighter, but he had a antidote to Manny's offense that looked so relentless against Morales two fights earlier, and watch Barrera go against Manny the second time. Or Jorge Solis, watch how that movement took away Manny's punch output.

Now I think Floyd would mostly come forward against Manny, but I think it would be in a similar way he did against Judah. I don't think he would be particularly lead leg heavy, and he would stay light on his feet so if Manny tried to come in with a combination that he could move away quickly and wait for Manny to be off balance before coming in, but I think he would also use similar tactics as Marquez and beat Manny to the punch because Manny kind of drops his hands before he ever throws punches in bunches, and a guy like Floyd could tee off on that. Furthermore watch how good offensively Mosley looked against Margarito, he looked amazingly fast, well conditioned, etc, etc. Even at the advanced stage of his career, but Floyd negated him, not because he was physically faster than Mosley as much as he was so much sharper in the ring. Now I saw Manny look great throwing punches at Margarito, Cotto, CLottey, etc, but I also saw Manny getting hit by punches on the outside, he is an amazing combination puncher, but he isn't the greatest boxer on the outside, and I think all it take is movement to dissipate Manny's offensive combinations, and then you have Manny at his weakest element and that's trying to box like Mayweather, Leonard, RJJ, Hopkins do. Take away his output and he is like any other fast fighter that isn't "different". What makes Manny different is his speed and power combined with his stamina. Floyd arguably has better stamina and vastly superior technique with the same speed. We've seen Manny exploited in the fact that he lacks true technique and I don't think his recent fights have forced him to change that. In fact I think his sparring in preparation for this fight prove that if Manny isn't at his fastest that he has a hard time with relatively ordinary fighters. Whereas a guy with really great technique can adapt way easier to variables in the ring.

It doesnt matter who Pacquiao has to beat down, you will still say Pacquiao isnt as good as mayweather. But guess we will never truly know will we, because Floyd Mayweather is to big of Pussy to step into a ring with someone that can match and exceed his skills in every department. Floyd has never faced someone that can put together combinations the way Manny does. Do you really think "WHEN" Pacquiao landed that big shot that Mosley did that he wouldn't finish Mayweather off. Im really not sure why Im even waisting my time with this post. Mayweather nut hugging is in your genes and no amount of common sense is going to change your mind. Surely! Suuuuuuuurely! If Mayweather believed he could beat Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao and get the Biggest paycheck of his life, recieve more fame and adoration than ever before, and go down in history as arguably one of the best fighters of all time, he would take the fight. Mayweather does more harm for the sport than good and im sick of people idolizing someone that cherry picks his opponets, comes and goes giving no respect to the sport or fans and is a loser woman beater from a loser family. Mayweather dont bother coming back to boxing unless you want to face the P4p King. Arrogant, self proclaimed best ever, and rich and his little butts about to be owned by the state. Congratulations!

[brucelee]

No...I don't think that Pacquiao would, could, or will defeat/dethrone Floyd.

I was surprised that he handled the size...or made it through the size of Margarito.

Floyd's an insane counter puncher & an even nuttier body man...I think Pac would have a career ending night...or possibly career defining...who's to say anything's impossible.

But my money'd be on Floyd...but then I'm a fan of that assbag...so what else?

I just can't totally agree with Floyd being that insanely great counter puncher. He had trouble with De la hoya and if De la hoya made a question mark on Floyd, imagine what Pac would do against Floyd.

[Gandalf]

No...I don't think that Pacquiao would, could, or will defeat/dethrone Floyd.

I was surprised that he handled the size...or made it through the size of Margarito.

Floyd's an insane counter puncher & an even nuttier body man...I think Pac would have a career ending night...or possibly career defining...who's to say anything's impossible.

But my money'd be on Floyd...but then I'm a fan of that assbag...so what else?

I just can't totally agree with Floyd being that insanely great counter puncher. He had trouble with De la hoya and if De la hoya made a question mark on Floyd, imagine what Pac would do against Floyd.

Floyd lost his share of rounds against DLH too, though clearly won the fight. But Floyd is just far too cautious. Manny is something Floyd has never faced. It's that output and willingness to keep buzzing with lunatic combinations that I just don't think Floyd will have an answer for. Sure, Floyd is a great counter puncher, but who has he faced that is any way comparable to Pac? Nobody. They have all been regular pressure fighters with limited stamina and output. Mayweather was able to wait until Hatton was worn out in six and then he began to impose himself. I can't see him ever imposing himself on Manny without getting seriously hurt in the process.

Floyd either shells up and loses on points or tries to take rounds and gets punished in the process. Manny is just as fast as Floyd at this stage and is far from one dimensional. Manny has also developed some really great footwork in recent years too. He has everything. He even has two hands that he can throw from any angle. The guy is an utter freak.

[Taeth]

I remember after Floyd beat Marquez people were starting to retract their belief that Manny would just run rampant on Floyd if they fought. Then Manny faced COtto and Clottey and that instilled the same enthusiasm in his fans until Floyd beat up Mosley whom many felt both Manny and Floyd were ducking. THen Manny faced the guy who Floyd has been given the most flack for not fighting in Antonio Margarito, and Manny has looked great, but does anyone think that Floyd wouldn't have pitched an absolute shut out against a guy as ordinary in skill as Antonio?

To me Manny has been hand fed the same makeup of opponent since moving up in weight. They have given him guys who allow Manny to make the most of his style and his speed. Diaz, ODLH(weight-drained), Hatton, Cotto, CLottey, and Margarito are all guys who come forward, and with the exception of a younger Oscar and Clottey they are all easy to hit. I will be the first to give Manny credit for looking absolutely amazing and being so tireless in training so that he could give the kind of performances he did, but these were all guys right there in front of him, and when anyone stands just right there in front of Manny they are going to lose. The one guy actually of all of them that was IMO the most impressive win for Manny was against Hatton, because he actually has fast footwork and he uses angles coming in, but he couldn't overcome those huge mistakes that he makes against southpaws in particular, and Manny was the absolutely antithesis of the type of guy hatton could get away with those mistakes again. But these guys made Manny look like a non-stop punching machine with power, counter punching ability, a great chin, and great footwork, but I would like to disagree to a certain extent this belief. I think it's curious that Manny was able to throw more punches than he ever did earlier in his career against guys so much bigger than him, but then I looked a little more closely. Manny's angles, combinations all came when his opponents were rooted to the ground. When Manny was dancing around these guys, they were simply following him, and standing their ground. Manny was basically given a punching bag that followed him around, and nobody looks faster or better on a heavybag than Manny Pacquiao. Go back and watch Pacquiao-marquez II and see Marquez either beat Manny to the punch with his right hand or take a step back to get just out of range of Manny's attack. This is from a guy who isn't even a particularly good defensive fighter, but he had a antidote to Manny's offense that looked so relentless against Morales two fights earlier, and watch Barrera go against Manny the second time. Or Jorge Solis, watch how that movement took away Manny's punch output.

Now I think Floyd would mostly come forward against Manny, but I think it would be in a similar way he did against Judah. I don't think he would be particularly lead leg heavy, and he would stay light on his feet so if Manny tried to come in with a combination that he could move away quickly and wait for Manny to be off balance before coming in, but I think he would also use similar tactics as Marquez and beat Manny to the punch because Manny kind of drops his hands before he ever throws punches in bunches, and a guy like Floyd could tee off on that. Furthermore watch how good offensively Mosley looked against Margarito, he looked amazingly fast, well conditioned, etc, etc. Even at the advanced stage of his career, but Floyd negated him, not because he was physically faster than Mosley as much as he was so much sharper in the ring. Now I saw Manny look great throwing punches at Margarito, Cotto, CLottey, etc, but I also saw Manny getting hit by punches on the outside, he is an amazing combination puncher, but he isn't the greatest boxer on the outside, and I think all it take is movement to dissipate Manny's offensive combinations, and then you have Manny at his weakest element and that's trying to box like Mayweather, Leonard, RJJ, Hopkins do. Take away his output and he is like any other fast fighter that isn't "different". What makes Manny different is his speed and power combined with his stamina. Floyd arguably has better stamina and vastly superior technique with the same speed. We've seen Manny exploited in the fact that he lacks true technique and I don't think his recent fights have forced him to change that. In fact I think his sparring in preparation for this fight prove that if Manny isn't at his fastest that he has a hard time with relatively ordinary fighters. Whereas a guy with really great technique can adapt way easier to variables in the ring.

It doesnt matter who Pacquiao has to beat down, you will still say Pacquiao isnt as good as mayweather. But guess we will never truly know will we, because Floyd Mayweather is to big of Pussy to step into a ring with someone that can match and exceed his skills in every department. Floyd has never faced someone that can put together combinations the way Manny does. Do you really think "WHEN" Pacquiao landed that big shot that Mosley did that he wouldn't finish Mayweather off. Im really not sure why Im even waisting my time with this post. Mayweather nut hugging is in your genes and no amount of common sense is going to change your mind. Surely! Suuuuuuuurely! If Mayweather believed he could beat Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao and get the Biggest paycheck of his life, recieve more fame and adoration than ever before, and go down in history as arguably one of the best fighters of all time, he would take the fight. Mayweather does more harm for the sport than good and im sick of people idolizing someone that cherry picks his opponets, comes and goes giving no respect to the sport or fans and is a loser woman beater from a loser family. Mayweather dont bother coming back to boxing unless you want to face the P4p King. Arrogant, self proclaimed best ever, and rich and his little butts about to be owned by the state. Congratulations!

Mayweather to many is the p4p king in the sport, and there are two sides to the arguement. I don't think B-Hop and Roy Jones Jr were ever scared to face eachother. This fight not happening is more about ego than anything else. These guys both are trying to find an edge to prove themselves superior to the other, and have everyone believe the other is ducking them. Manny's camp has been cherry picking his opponents as much as Mayweather's has. Hatton had been beaten by Mayweather, as had ODLH. Cotto had a been physically damaged by Margarito then had a really tough fight against Clottey where he didn't look good. Clottey was a perfect opponent for Pacquiao's style. Margarito was demolished by Mosley then looked bad against Robert Garcia.

Mayweather and Pacquiao have foughten great opponents, but Mayweather fought a better version of Hatton, De La Hoya who had destroyed Mayorga and floyd moved up, and he faced Mosley who destroyed Margarito like aforementioned. How is that cherry picking his opponents?

Pacquiao wouldn't land that type of shot on Mayweather, he doesn't move in with punches the same Mosley does, nor does he throw a counter left like Judah that he would catch Floyd coming in, at least not with that type of power.

You say Floyd is a loser woman beater, but Manny has had numerous girlfriends on the side of his marriage, and he kicked out his last girlfriend because she got pregnant. Besides I'm not sure about every other situation, but Josey Harris has already accussed Mayweather of beating her then denying it in court. We haven't even heard the real story from both sides yet.

But there is nobody in the history of boxing that can step into the ring and exceed Mayweather's skills in every department, same can be said about Pacquiao. They are both great, but Floyd is better. It's just as the saying goes "offense gets the glory, but defense wins the game". Manny looks great when has a target to land on, and he is amazing when that is the case, but we've seen him look less than scintilatting against guys with movement. The one guy that made Floyd look back, he fought again and totally dominated. Manny did that to Morales, but couldn't against Marquez who is the closest guy to Mayweather that he has faced, and based on their fight they are still a world apart.

[Gandalf]

I remember after Floyd beat Marquez people were starting to retract their belief that Manny would just run rampant on Floyd if they fought. Then Manny faced COtto and Clottey and that instilled the same enthusiasm in his fans until Floyd beat up Mosley whom many felt both Manny and Floyd were ducking. THen Manny faced the guy who Floyd has been given the most flack for not fighting in Antonio Margarito, and Manny has looked great, but does anyone think that Floyd wouldn't have pitched an absolute shut out against a guy as ordinary in skill as Antonio?

To me Manny has been hand fed the same makeup of opponent since moving up in weight. They have given him guys who allow Manny to make the most of his style and his speed. Diaz, ODLH(weight-drained), Hatton, Cotto, CLottey, and Margarito are all guys who come forward, and with the exception of a younger Oscar and Clottey they are all easy to hit. I will be the first to give Manny credit for looking absolutely amazing and being so tireless in training so that he could give the kind of performances he did, but these were all guys right there in front of him, and when anyone stands just right there in front of Manny they are going to lose. The one guy actually of all of them that was IMO the most impressive win for Manny was against Hatton, because he actually has fast footwork and he uses angles coming in, but he couldn't overcome those huge mistakes that he makes against southpaws in particular, and Manny was the absolutely antithesis of the type of guy hatton could get away with those mistakes again. But these guys made Manny look like a non-stop punching machine with power, counter punching ability, a great chin, and great footwork, but I would like to disagree to a certain extent this belief. I think it's curious that Manny was able to throw more punches than he ever did earlier in his career against guys so much bigger than him, but then I looked a little more closely. Manny's angles, combinations all came when his opponents were rooted to the ground. When Manny was dancing around these guys, they were simply following him, and standing their ground. Manny was basically given a punching bag that followed him around, and nobody looks faster or better on a heavybag than Manny Pacquiao. Go back and watch Pacquiao-marquez II and see Marquez either beat Manny to the punch with his right hand or take a step back to get just out of range of Manny's attack. This is from a guy who isn't even a particularly good defensive fighter, but he had a antidote to Manny's offense that looked so relentless against Morales two fights earlier, and watch Barrera go against Manny the second time. Or Jorge Solis, watch how that movement took away Manny's punch output.

Now I think Floyd would mostly come forward against Manny, but I think it would be in a similar way he did against Judah. I don't think he would be particularly lead leg heavy, and he would stay light on his feet so if Manny tried to come in with a combination that he could move away quickly and wait for Manny to be off balance before coming in, but I think he would also use similar tactics as Marquez and beat Manny to the punch because Manny kind of drops his hands before he ever throws punches in bunches, and a guy like Floyd could tee off on that. Furthermore watch how good offensively Mosley looked against Margarito, he looked amazingly fast, well conditioned, etc, etc. Even at the advanced stage of his career, but Floyd negated him, not because he was physically faster than Mosley as much as he was so much sharper in the ring. Now I saw Manny look great throwing punches at Margarito, Cotto, CLottey, etc, but I also saw Manny getting hit by punches on the outside, he is an amazing combination puncher, but he isn't the greatest boxer on the outside, and I think all it take is movement to dissipate Manny's offensive combinations, and then you have Manny at his weakest element and that's trying to box like Mayweather, Leonard, RJJ, Hopkins do. Take away his output and he is like any other fast fighter that isn't "different". What makes Manny different is his speed and power combined with his stamina. Floyd arguably has better stamina and vastly superior technique with the same speed. We've seen Manny exploited in the fact that he lacks true technique and I don't think his recent fights have forced him to change that. In fact I think his sparring in preparation for this fight prove that if Manny isn't at his fastest that he has a hard time with relatively ordinary fighters. Whereas a guy with really great technique can adapt way easier to variables in the ring.

It doesnt matter who Pacquiao has to beat down, you will still say Pacquiao isnt as good as mayweather. But guess we will never truly know will we, because Floyd Mayweather is to big of Pussy to step into a ring with someone that can match and exceed his skills in every department. Floyd has never faced someone that can put together combinations the way Manny does. Do you really think "WHEN" Pacquiao landed that big shot that Mosley did that he wouldn't finish Mayweather off. Im really not sure why Im even waisting my time with this post. Mayweather nut hugging is in your genes and no amount of common sense is going to change your mind. Surely! Suuuuuuuurely! If Mayweather believed he could beat Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao and get the Biggest paycheck of his life, recieve more fame and adoration than ever before, and go down in history as arguably one of the best fighters of all time, he would take the fight. Mayweather does more harm for the sport than good and im sick of people idolizing someone that cherry picks his opponets, comes and goes giving no respect to the sport or fans and is a loser woman beater from a loser family. Mayweather dont bother coming back to boxing unless you want to face the P4p King. Arrogant, self proclaimed best ever, and rich and his little butts about to be owned by the state. Congratulations!

Mayweather to many is the p4p king in the sport, and there are two sides to the arguement. I don't think B-Hop and Roy Jones Jr were ever scared to face eachother. This fight not happening is more about ego than anything else. These guys both are trying to find an edge to prove themselves superior to the other, and have everyone believe the other is ducking them. Manny's camp has been cherry picking his opponents as much as Mayweather's has. Hatton had been beaten by Mayweather, as had ODLH. Cotto had a been physically damaged by Margarito then had a really tough fight against Clottey where he didn't look good. Clottey was a perfect opponent for Pacquiao's style. Margarito was demolished by Mosley then looked bad against Robert Garcia.

Mayweather and Pacquiao have foughten great opponents, but Mayweather fought a better version of Hatton, De La Hoya who had destroyed Mayorga and floyd moved up, and he faced Mosley who destroyed Margarito like aforementioned. How is that cherry picking his opponents?

Pacquiao wouldn't land that type of shot on Mayweather, he doesn't move in with punches the same Mosley does, nor does he throw a counter left like Judah that he would catch Floyd coming in, at least not with that type of power.

You say Floyd is a loser woman beater, but Manny has had numerous girlfriends on the side of his marriage, and he kicked out his last girlfriend because she got pregnant. Besides I'm not sure about every other situation, but Josey Harris has already accussed Mayweather of beating her then denying it in court. We haven't even heard the real story from both sides yet.

But there is nobody in the history of boxing that can step into the ring and exceed Mayweather's skills in every department, same can be said about Pacquiao. They are both great, but Floyd is better. It's just as the saying goes "offense gets the glory, but defense wins the game". Manny looks great when has a target to land on, and he is amazing when that is the case, but we've seen him look less than scintilatting against guys with movement. The one guy that made Floyd look back, he fought again and totally dominated. Manny did that to Morales, but couldn't against Marquez who is the closest guy to Mayweather that he has faced, and based on their fight they are still a world apart.

It is merely your opinion and until they fight you just don't know that. In terms of common opponents Pac has done the FAR more impressive work. Pacquiao would annihilate this version of Mosley too. Mosley doesn't have the defence to stop those combos bouncing off of his head. He's too old, just as he was too old and inactive for Floyd too. Pac would mess up a Marquez quite badly at 147 too. Mayweather pot shotted his way to victory. Pac would have messed him up.

Floyd is great, but Pac is beyond him right now and is the P4P best fighter and considering all the great work since the first Morales fight, the best fight of this century. Floyd has just coasted for FAR too long. He has been eclipsed.