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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko3205 View Post
    No...I don't think that Pacquiao would, could, or will defeat/dethrone Floyd.

    I was surprised that he handled the size...or made it through the size of Margarito.

    Floyd's an insane counter puncher & an even nuttier body man...I think Pac would have a career ending night...or possibly career defining...who's to say anything's impossible.

    But my money'd be on Floyd...but then I'm a fan of that assbag...so what else?
    I just can't totally agree with Floyd being that insanely great counter puncher. He had trouble with De la hoya and if De la hoya made a question mark on Floyd, imagine what Pac would do against Floyd.

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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko3205 View Post
    No...I don't think that Pacquiao would, could, or will defeat/dethrone Floyd.

    I was surprised that he handled the size...or made it through the size of Margarito.

    Floyd's an insane counter puncher & an even nuttier body man...I think Pac would have a career ending night...or possibly career defining...who's to say anything's impossible.

    But my money'd be on Floyd...but then I'm a fan of that assbag...so what else?
    I just can't totally agree with Floyd being that insanely great counter puncher. He had trouble with De la hoya and if De la hoya made a question mark on Floyd, imagine what Pac would do against Floyd.
    Floyd lost his share of rounds against DLH too, though clearly won the fight. But Floyd is just far too cautious. Manny is something Floyd has never faced. It's that output and willingness to keep buzzing with lunatic combinations that I just don't think Floyd will have an answer for. Sure, Floyd is a great counter puncher, but who has he faced that is any way comparable to Pac? Nobody. They have all been regular pressure fighters with limited stamina and output. Mayweather was able to wait until Hatton was worn out in six and then he began to impose himself. I can't see him ever imposing himself on Manny without getting seriously hurt in the process.

    Floyd either shells up and loses on points or tries to take rounds and gets punished in the process. Manny is just as fast as Floyd at this stage and is far from one dimensional. Manny has also developed some really great footwork in recent years too. He has everything. He even has two hands that he can throw from any angle. The guy is an utter freak.

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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko3205 View Post
    No...I don't think that Pacquiao would, could, or will defeat/dethrone Floyd.

    I was surprised that he handled the size...or made it through the size of Margarito.

    Floyd's an insane counter puncher & an even nuttier body man...I think Pac would have a career ending night...or possibly career defining...who's to say anything's impossible.

    But my money'd be on Floyd...but then I'm a fan of that assbag...so what else?
    I just can't totally agree with Floyd being that insanely great counter puncher. He had trouble with De la hoya and if De la hoya made a question mark on Floyd, imagine what Pac would do against Floyd.
    It's hard to imagine Pacquiao being taller then Floyd and fighting him patiently while trying to counter him behind a jab for 6 rounds. I sort of imagine Pacquiao trying to go in and out and giving Floyd more to counter then Oscar did early on.

    You can't imagine Pacquiao fighting Mayweather like Oscar fought him or even like Shane fought him. So saying "he lost some rounds to Oscar imagine what Pacquiao would do to him." pretty much makes no sense, its completely different styles. You'd be more accurate saying, Marquez beat him twice, imagine what Floyd would do to him, but that would be unfair too.
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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    Yeah that's the main thing that bugs me; no matter how good Manny Pacquiao Looks, you can't deny what Juan Manuel Marquez did to him.

    Marquez with superior speed, reach, timing, reflexes AND power = BIG trouble for Pacquiao. Plus Mayweather is an incredibly smart guy. He took what Mosley had to offer had exploited it in a matter of 30 seconds. To be beat him, you have to have something that bests him and TBH with Maywather being on the back foot, that will always leave Pacquiao on -1.

    Actually, add Mayweather's jab to the body and it's more like -1.5.
    I don't truly think Pacquiao looses 10 times out of 10 but I know he would really have to surpass himself to really get at Mayweather.

    ARGH! But then what are Mayweather's legs like these days? oh man I'm confused. I have reason to believe than Mayweather is a bit more leggy then he used to be and boy is Pacquiao good on his feet these days.

    Fuck it, I give up.
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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    I think in reality,this is a 50/50 fight....But from what i have seen from the two fighter's.

    I more lean towards FMM...I think while the pac-man is a great,no doubt.
    He does leave himself open quite alot and i just feel FMM will just pick him off...He's just too smart.

    Who is in line To fight Fmm anyway??...Ive heard some poor names banded about.

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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    CBA to read all the crap posted so i will say this....

    NO more than i thought before the fight.

    What it did do is install the fact of what an amazing fighter he is.... with or without the floyd fight he will go down in history as a boxing legend.

    i personally don't think he needs Floyd and a win over Flyod would just be the cherry on the top of what is an amazing career.

    A lose to floyd would not take anything away from what he has achived IMHO...

    But as a fan.... i would sell my first born just to listen to this fight on a radio... its that big to me

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    Default Re: Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    CBA to read all the crap posted so i will say this....

    NO more than i thought before the fight.

    What it did do is install the fact of what an amazing fighter he is.... with or without the floyd fight he will go down in history as a boxing legend.

    i personally don't think he needs Floyd and a win over Flyod would just be the cherry on the top of what is an amazing career.

    A lose to floyd would not take anything away from what he has achived IMHO...

    But as a fan.... i would sell my first born just to listen to this fight on a radio... its that big to me
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