Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now Haye

[TitoFan]

My question is:

Does Haye's win over Harrison INCREASE? or DECREASE? the probability of a fight with one of the Klitschkos. And why?

[El Kabong]

My question is:

Does Haye's win over Harrison INCREASE? or DECREASE? the probability of a fight with one of the Klitschkos. And why?

He wants to retire.....I'm sure the Klitschko's will find it in their hearts to oblige him whether it means losing money in the short term or not

[0james0]

Didn't really fight Harrison though. Just knocked him out.

I can't decide who would be best for Haye, but an ageing Vitali should be slower, which would suit Haye's speed. He is elusive for a heavy weight, he would try and frustrate Vitali by not letting him land a shot.

[El Kabong]

Didn't really fight Harrison though. Just knocked him out.

I can't decide who would be best for Haye, but an ageing Vitali should be slower, which would suit Haye's speed. He is elusive for a heavy weight, he would try and frustrate Vitali by not letting him land a shot.

It depends...which one does he want to knock him out?

Vitali gives you a full 12 round beat down these days with his "aging" and all and Wlad will probably do more damage and stop you a bit sooner

[generalbulldog]

My question is:

Does Haye's win over Harrison INCREASE? or DECREASE? the probability of a fight with one of the Klitschkos. And why?

It decreases. Haye just made tens of millions fighting Harrison, so what does that tell you?

Also, Haye just called out the Klits again saying he's going to do a Audley Harrison on them. We've seen this act before. Call out the Klits then line up a fight with some bum and make tens of millions. My next guess will be he fights a Holyfield or a Tyson Fury and puts it on PPV. Then Haye calls out the Klits again, rinse and repeat.

[Conrad]

I dunno about that, there's nowhere else for Haye to go now other than a Klit. There was nowhere for him to go other than a Klit before Harrison but the UK general public swallowed that purely because of Harrison's profile.

Haye becomes a joke if he avoids the Klits now and deep down he knows it. You can guarantee every single person that meets him now will ask him the same question, 'when you fighting a Klitschko?'

There's too much money and pride at stake for there to be any other outcome, Haye WILL fight a Klit in 2011. Which one doesn't matter, if it ends up being both it will rejuvenate the entire division.

Also, whether he'll admit it or not, Lyle will be more excited for this fight than any other in recent memory. The Haye hype machine has worked ;-)

[smashup]

Said all along Haye can beat both Klits.

Can 100% see him getting the KO over Wlad and using Valuev style tactics to beat Vitali.

Vitali has a Solid chin so i think he'd have to use his speed on him but think he has the Power to test Wlads suspect chin.

Really don't see either fight as a big problem for him.

They'll both come down to his tactics on the night.

[El Kabong]

Go ahead and hype up the Audley Slayer, but just be warned when you start talking Klitschko's it's a different world. Wlad or Vitali will actually throw punches....and from the looks of their KO percentages once those punches start landing I don't think they are going to tickle. But that's just my view, you guys build up this guy all you want, I'm just saying I won't be surprised with the outcome.....should he decide to actually fight a Klitschko brother.

...Audley Harrison, I mean who knew he could be KO'd like that? Round 3 and everything

And now people say he's got a "good" to "great" chance of beating a Klitschko based on that performance.....you must'a lost your damn minds.

[Memphis]

Go ahead and hype up the Audley Slayer, but just be warned when you start talking Klitschko's it's a different world. Wlad or Vitali will actually throw punches....and from the looks of their KO percentages once those punches start landing I don't think they are going to tickle. But that's just my view, you guys build up this guy all you want, I'm just saying I won't be surprised with the outcome.....should he decide to actually fight a Klitschko brother.

...Audley Harrison, I mean who knew he could be KO'd like that? Round 3 and everything

And now people say he's got a "good" to "great" chance of beating a Klitschko based on that performance.....you must'a lost your damn minds.

Who? Who said that? Please post this Lyle because its becoming like a Dan Brown book trying to crack your code.

Just about EVERYONE says they favour Wlad and Vitali. A few give Haye a shot but thats something your just going to have to live with Im affraid.

Please find one person who has changed their mind based on the Harrison fight.

[El Kabong]

Oh yeah the reasoning matters a lot, he PERCEIVES a slower easier to hit Vitali and chinny Wladimir compared to an incredibly fast and powerful Audley Slayer.....I see something along the lines of 2 true champions scouring the division looking for a challenge and a loud mouth that's just out to line his pockets.

The disparity in class is overwhelming and I guess everyone will just have to wait and see....I already know the outcome

[Memphis]

Oh yeah the reasoning matters a lot, he PERCEIVES a slower easier to hit Vitali and chinny Wladimir compared to an incredibly fast and powerful Audley Slayer.....I see something along the lines of 2 true champions scouring the division looking for a challenge and a loud mouth that's just out to line his pockets.

The disparity in class is overwhelming and I guess everyone will just have to wait and see....I already know the outcome

It does if your saying people have changed their mind based on the Harrison fight.........they havent Lyle

Again, just about everyone will pick Wlad or Vitali to beat him, only you will be claiming some kind of prophetic gift when/if it happens.

I know......I know, when it happens.

[Gandalf]

I would actually like to see Vitali fight Haye first as I prefer Vitali out of the two. Vitali is much more fun to watch and would go to war much earlier. That's more my kind of entertainment. Wlad's jab, jab, jab for half a dozen rounds gets a bit boring. Technically it's very good, but Manny Steward needs to slap and shout before we ever get any real excitement.

Bring on Vitali/Haye!

[Hornfinger]

I was saying haye would beat Klit before Audley.

Let's face it, The klit fight didn't come off so Haye made alot of easy money fighting someone he knew he'd beat and it keeps the ring rust off. That's what that fight was.

[generalbulldog]

If Vitali or Wlad beats Haye, I have a feeling his supporters will come out with many excuses.

Here's a list of them I thought up.

1. Haye was weight drain because the Klits put in a clause that he can only weigh a certain amount.
2. he was distracted because of some event happen prior to the fight.
3. he didn't have his favorite meal before the fight.
4. One of the brothers had loaded gloves.
5. One of them was on PEDs.
6. The ref was on the klits side
7. the klits demanded a small ring so he couldn't maneuver around as much
8. He was under pressure to try to live up to the British crowds expectations.
9. The Klits had a size advantage, so the fight wasn't fair.
10. Haye had some sort of injury that he didn't disclose to the public.

[rjj tszyu]

Oh yeah the reasoning matters a lot, he PERCEIVES a slower easier to hit Vitali and chinny Wladimir compared to an incredibly fast and powerful Audley Slayer.....I see something along the lines of 2 true champions scouring the division looking for a challenge and a loud mouth that's just out to line his pockets.

The disparity in class is overwhelming and I guess everyone will just have to wait and see....I already know the outcome

Me and you have been having this conversation for over 2 years now Lyle. Nothing on saturday changed anything so why are you making it sound like I've changed my opinion after the Audley fight? I think Haye causes both brothers trouble due to his far superior speed in both hand and foot.