PAC deserve those props IMO

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I love it I didn't even mention Floyd and you use that as part of your arguement. I think Pac fans are more obsessed with Floyd than anyone else.

You nearly put up a valid arguement until you started hurling the insults, although I'm sure no moderator will say anything to you about that.....

Cotto was at a catchweight so why you use that in this I have no idea...

Marquez he was gifted a lot of people think pac lost both fights.

Hatton had been Ko'ed by floyd looked awful agaist Lazcano and all of a sudden the IBO title counts for something?

Margarito, no way matey. That was not a title fight as I've stated before Antonio was a disgraced fighter not a number one contender or a champ

You're in cloud cookoo land with clottey. He has achieved no where near (and never will achieve) what hatton did in his career.

If the catch weights aren't a big deal why do Roach and manny insist on them all the time?

Manny has never taken a USADA random drug test

Good effort but still got your head in the sand. Keep stewing the insults it tells me I have a valid point.

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I love it I didn't even mention Floyd and you use that as part of your arguement. I think Pac fans are more obsessed with Floyd than anyone else.

You nearly put up a valid arguement until you started hurling the insults, although I'm sure no moderator will say anything to you about that.....

1. Cotto was at a catchweight so why you use that in this I have no idea...

2. Marquez he was gifted a lot of people think pac lost both fights.

3. Hatton had been Ko'ed by floyd looked awful agaist Lazcano and all of a sudden the IBO title counts for something?

4. Margarito, no way matey. That was not a title fight as I've stated before Antonio was a disgraced fighter not a number one contender or a champ

5. You're in cloud cookoo land with clottey. He has achieved no where near (and never will achieve) what hatton did in his career.

6. If the catch weights aren't a big deal why do Roach and manny insist on them all the time?

7. Manny has never taken a USADA random drug test

Good effort but still got your head in the sand. Keep stewing the insults it tells me I have a valid point.

Oooh.... 'you gonna cry now? Lmfao!

1. I've expressed many times this site alone that I hate catchweights. Cotto weighed-in as 146 against Clottey. So I don't get why Pac-Cotto fight was catchweight either. Pac would have still dismantled Cotto even at 147.

2. Well, many people also think Pac won those fights.... INCLUDING THE OFFICIAL JUDGES. But it is what it is. It's already in the book. Wtf are you gonna do about it?

3. Hatton fought two guys in the ring that night... Mayweather and Cortez. Plus Pac's win against Hatton was way more impressive (the 6 minute storm). IBO is a piece of shit belt. But you must be out of your freaking mind if the ring belt doesn't count for somethin.

4. That fight shouldn't have happen in the first place. That fight went through cuz Floyd is a pussy and Arum is a scumbag. Manny beating UP a man that outweights him 17 pounds is very impressive. He deserve to be crowned.

5. All Clottey's losses were questionable. But he could not win a single round against Pac. Hatton and Clottey have about the same boxing accomplishment. The big difference between them though is one of them is overhyped and the other is not.

6. Then why Manny's opponent agree to fight him if it's a big deal?

7. Neither Floyd. Refusing a USADA radom test 18 days before the fight is not really a USADA random test.

[Hornfinger]

I love it I didn't even mention Floyd and you use that as part of your arguement. I think Pac fans are more obsessed with Floyd than anyone else.

You nearly put up a valid arguement until you started hurling the insults, although I'm sure no moderator will say anything to you about that.....

1. Cotto was at a catchweight so why you use that in this I have no idea...

2. Marquez he was gifted a lot of people think pac lost both fights.

3. Hatton had been Ko'ed by floyd looked awful agaist Lazcano and all of a sudden the IBO title counts for something?

4. Margarito, no way matey. That was not a title fight as I've stated before Antonio was a disgraced fighter not a number one contender or a champ

5. You're in cloud cookoo land with clottey. He has achieved no where near (and never will achieve) what hatton did in his career.

6. If the catch weights aren't a big deal why do Roach and manny insist on them all the time?

7. Manny has never taken a USADA random drug test

Good effort but still got your head in the sand. Keep stewing the insults it tells me I have a valid point.

Oooh.... 'you gonna cry now? Lmfao!

1. I've expressed many times this site alone that I hate catchweights. Cotto weighed-in as 146 against Clottey. So I don't get why Pac-Cotto fight was catchweight either. Pac would have still dismantled Cotto even at 147.

2. Well, many people also think Pac won those fights.... INCLUDING THE OFFICIAL JUDGES. But it is what it is. It's already in the book. Wtf are you gonna do about it?

3. Hatton fought two guys in the ring that night... Mayweather and Cortez. Plus Pac's win against Hatton was way more impressive (the 6 minute storm). IBO is a piece of shit belt. But you must be out of your freaking mind if the ring belt doesn't count for somethin.

4. That fight shouldn't have happen in the first place. That fight went through cuz Floyd is a pussy and Arum is a scumbag. Manny beating UP a man that outweights him 17 pounds is very impressive. He deserve to be crowned.

5. All Clottey's losses were questionable. But he could not win a single round against Pac. Hatton and Clottey have about the same boxing accomplishment. The big difference between them though is one of them is overhyped and the other is not.

6. Then why Manny's opponent agree to fight him if it's a big deal?

7. Neither Floyd. Refusing a USADA radom test 18 days before the fight is not really a USADA random test.

Of course I'm not going to cry. I'm not the one that's got no arguement to the facts of my hero isn't what he's cracked to be. That, however, might be why you are crying like a baby.

Glad you agree with point one, you're starting to see sence, well done. If pac was so sure he'd dismantle cotto at 147 then he should have fought him at 147. simple.

Point two. The only thing i'm going to do is point out the fact that he was bloody lucky not to lose in both fights, and in heart of hearts pac fans know that. I find it very funny that you're trying to make some kind of point that the judges in a boxing match are infalable. If you want I can give you a list of fights where the judges got it very very wrong. As a boxing fan you should know that though.

Hatton did have the ref agaist him in the floyd fight. But Hatton fans including myself still feel floyd would have won that fight. Pac's win was more impressive? well it was at a different weight, hatton had been Ko'ed and had a different trainer that gave him the worst camp of his career. I personally think Koing an undefeated fighter is better then Koing a fighter that is a shadow of his former self.

Point six, MONEY YOU STUPID FOOL!

Point seven, that is pure fiction. Do you normally make things up when you're fighting a losing battle?

Keep trying.

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I love it I didn't even mention Floyd and you use that as part of your arguement. I think Pac fans are more obsessed with Floyd than anyone else.

You nearly put up a valid arguement until you started hurling the insults, although I'm sure no moderator will say anything to you about that.....

1. Cotto was at a catchweight so why you use that in this I have no idea...

2. Marquez he was gifted a lot of people think pac lost both fights.

3. Hatton had been Ko'ed by floyd looked awful agaist Lazcano and all of a sudden the IBO title counts for something?

4. Margarito, no way matey. That was not a title fight as I've stated before Antonio was a disgraced fighter not a number one contender or a champ

5. You're in cloud cookoo land with clottey. He has achieved no where near (and never will achieve) what hatton did in his career.

6. If the catch weights aren't a big deal why do Roach and manny insist on them all the time?

7. Manny has never taken a USADA random drug test

Good effort but still got your head in the sand. Keep stewing the insults it tells me I have a valid point.

Oooh.... 'you gonna cry now? Lmfao!

1. I've expressed many times this site alone that I hate catchweights. Cotto weighed-in as 146 against Clottey. So I don't get why Pac-Cotto fight was catchweight either. Pac would have still dismantled Cotto even at 147.

2. Well, many people also think Pac won those fights.... INCLUDING THE OFFICIAL JUDGES. But it is what it is. It's already in the book. Wtf are you gonna do about it?

3. Hatton fought two guys in the ring that night... Mayweather and Cortez. Plus Pac's win against Hatton was way more impressive (the 6 minute storm). IBO is a piece of shit belt. But you must be out of your freaking mind if the ring belt doesn't count for somethin.

4. That fight shouldn't have happen in the first place. That fight went through cuz Floyd is a pussy and Arum is a scumbag. Manny beating UP a man that outweights him 17 pounds is very impressive. He deserve to be crowned.

5. All Clottey's losses were questionable. But he could not win a single round against Pac. Hatton and Clottey have about the same boxing accomplishment. The big difference between them though is one of them is overhyped and the other is not.

6. Then why Manny's opponent agree to fight him if it's a big deal?

7. Neither Floyd. Refusing a USADA radom test 18 days before the fight is not really a USADA random test.

Of course I'm not going to cry. I'm not the one that's got no arguement to the facts of my hero isn't what he's cracked to be. That, however, might be why you are crying like a baby.

1. Glad you agree with point one, you're starting to see sence, well done. If pac was so sure he'd dismantle cotto at 147 then he should have fought him at 147. simple.

2. Point two. The only thing i'm going to do is point out the fact that he was bloody lucky not to lose in both fights, and in heart of hearts pac fans know that. I find it very funny that you're trying to make some kind of point that the judges in a boxing match are infalable. If you want I can give you a list of fights where the judges got it very very wrong. As a boxing fan you should know that though.

3. Hatton did have the ref agaist him in the floyd fight. But Hatton fans including myself still feel floyd would have won that fight. Pac's win was more impressive? well it was at a different weight, hatton had been Ko'ed and had a different trainer that gave him the worst camp of his career. I personally think Koing an undefeated fighter is better then Koing a fighter that is a shadow of his former self.

4. Point six, MONEY YOU STUPID FOOL!

5. Point seven, that is pure fiction. Do you normally make things up when you're fighting a losing battle?

Keep trying.

1. fair enough

2. It's a matter of opinion whether you like it or not. I know that there were 3 judges sittin in 3 different angles. It means they saw the fight in 3 different versions while most people only saw the fight in 1 dimension.

3. Ofcourse Pac's win over Hatton was more impressive. Some calls KO of the decade.

4. Like I said Cotto going down to fight Pac at 145 is not really that big deal, considering Cotto weighed-in 146 against Clottey. That's what I meant when I said "it's no big deal". If you still don't understand that, then you must be a dumb.

5. I don't make shit up. Never did. Mayweather - Mosley had 18 day cut off? Pacquiao says he will do 14 days�-�liverpuncher.com

I didn't know you were also a sourgraping Hatton fan.

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USADA wouldn't have taken part in it and also would have blown the whistle.

USADA | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. Research, Testing & Education

Do yourself a favour and read up. It's interesting stuff. But again you gotta take your head outta the sand.

Pacquiao has more question marks around him than a quiz book, and he does very little to get rid of those question marks. But then why does he need to when his fans follow him so blindly.

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USADA wouldn't have taken part in it and also would have blown the whistle.

USADA | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. Research, Testing & Education

Do yourself a favour and read up. It's interesting stuff. But again you gotta take your head outta the sand.

Pacquiao has more question marks around him than a quiz book, and he does very little to get rid of those question marks. But then why does he need to when his fans follow him so blindly.

Reading that don't make you a steroid expert. They are private agency. Tygart is well known as a scumbag. That's why they've lost their case in the court with their proposed BS. NSAC medical team and others backed Pacquiao up.

Floyd didn't abide by their procedures. Cuz he's so damn aware of danger of them poking his vein days/hours/mins before the fight.

Get to know your shit more dumb dumb.

[Hornfinger]

USADA wouldn't have taken part in it and also would have blown the whistle.

USADA | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. Research, Testing & Education

Do yourself a favour and read up. It's interesting stuff. But again you gotta take your head outta the sand.

Pacquiao has more question marks around him than a quiz book, and he does very little to get rid of those question marks. But then why does he need to when his fans follow him so blindly.

Reading that don't make you a steroid expert. They are private agency. Tygart is well known as a scumbag. That's why they've lost their case in the court with their proposed BS. NSAC medical team and others backed Pacquiao up.

Floyd didn't abide by their procedures. Cuz he's so damn aware of danger of them poking his vein days/hours/mins before the fight.

Get to know your shit more dumb dumb.

No it doesn't make me an expert but it makes me more knowledgeable than the people that haven't read through it. And Floyd did follow their proceedures, I don't really see an article written by some unknown person on a random 2 bit boxing site as being a reliable scource.

Back to the child like name calling cuz you don't have anything else to fight your corner with eh? sad.