Williams is still world class.

[Majesty]

Nothing against Williams but really the blue prints out....he is far too long in the tooth,fight wise and learned style wise to suddenly find some Hearns formula for his frame and reach. He is where he is going as a fighter I believe.I think Martinez gets him again if they went trilogy.

if the blueprint is "wait for Williams to leave himself open and throw a one punch KO" that's not a very good one.

That's like saying the blueprints out on how to beat Duran because of what Hearns did, or how to beat Khan because Prescott did it.

And one shot one punch KO doesn't mean the blueprint on how to beat Williams is there. It was a perfectly timed great shot from a great fighter. The blueprint on how to beat Williams really won't be there until he consistently loses against it.

[armin]

"Nothing against Williams but really the blue prints out....he is far too long in the tooth,fight wise and learned style wise to suddenly find some Hearns formula for his frame and reach. He is where he is going as a fighter I believe.I think Martinez gets him again if they went trilogy."

Dude's got two loses and we want to write him off... back in the day dudes would have 2 loses in a month and then go on to be champ next year. It was a one shot ko from a punch he never saw coming so it doesn't even mean his chin is necessarily dented he just needs to stop leaving it that exposed which really shouldn't be that hard of a task. As for completely changing his style that probably won't happen but just keep a closer guard. He didn't take a beating in this fight so just take an easy fight out next time and then get right back in the mix of things.

[Spicoli]

Nothing against Williams but really the blue prints out....he is far too long in the tooth,fight wise and learned style wise to suddenly find some Hearns formula for his frame and reach. He is where he is going as a fighter I believe.I think Martinez gets him again if they went trilogy.

if the blueprint is "wait for Williams to leave himself open and throw a one punch KO" that's not a very good one.

That's like saying the blueprints out on how to beat Duran because of what Hearns did, or how to beat Khan because Prescott did it.

And one shot one punch KO doesn't mean the blueprint on how to beat Williams is there. It was a perfectly timed great shot from a great fighter. The blueprint on how to beat Williams really won't be there until he consistently loses against it.

The blueprint is that Williams has nil for defense as he was caught with 4 flush fight enders prior to bomb. He counts on volume and pressure as total package & when your face starts running into frequent fists you encounter problems. Being timed and countered with left hooks resulting in nose dives to the canvas as an example.

Duran who had gone prior 15 with Hagler will never be confused with Williams. And he had more to fall back on as far as skill. Khan...um ok

He's not changing his style and suddenly fighting his frame right now this late. He's too entrenched in what has gotten him to this level and high visability matches. Time for insurance policy and right style training has passed I believe.

[Majesty]

Nothing against Williams but really the blue prints out....he is far too long in the tooth,fight wise and learned style wise to suddenly find some Hearns formula for his frame and reach. He is where he is going as a fighter I believe.I think Martinez gets him again if they went trilogy.

if the blueprint is "wait for Williams to leave himself open and throw a one punch KO" that's not a very good one.

That's like saying the blueprints out on how to beat Duran because of what Hearns did, or how to beat Khan because Prescott did it.

And one shot one punch KO doesn't mean the blueprint on how to beat Williams is there. It was a perfectly timed great shot from a great fighter. The blueprint on how to beat Williams really won't be there until he consistently loses against it.

The blueprint is that Williams has nil for defense as he was caught with 4 flush fight enders prior to bomb. He counts on volume and pressure as total package & when your face starts running into frequent fists you encounter problems. Being timed and countered with left hooks resulting in nose dives to the canvas as an example.

Duran who had gone prior 15 with Hagler will never be confused with Williams. And he had more to fall back on as far as skill. Khan...um ok

Yes but you'd have to be expecting him to leave himself as badly wide open as that.

If the blueprint is just waiting on that shot to come a lot of people are going to be unsuccessful with that. If you want a fight for a blueprint look at the first Quintana fight.

But it's not like it really worked the second time around.

There is no real "formula" for beating Williams, it's all about taking what he gives you. And what he gave Martinez was all Martinez needed to knock him out. But it was far from the blueprint to beating Williams.

[Spicoli]

Nothing against Williams but really the blue prints out....he is far too long in the tooth,fight wise and learned style wise to suddenly find some Hearns formula for his frame and reach. He is where he is going as a fighter I believe.I think Martinez gets him again if they went trilogy.

if the blueprint is "wait for Williams to leave himself open and throw a one punch KO" that's not a very good one.

That's like saying the blueprints out on how to beat Duran because of what Hearns did, or how to beat Khan because Prescott did it.

And one shot one punch KO doesn't mean the blueprint on how to beat Williams is there. It was a perfectly timed great shot from a great fighter. The blueprint on how to beat Williams really won't be there until he consistently loses against it.

The blueprint is that Williams has nil for defense as he was caught with 4 flush fight enders prior to bomb. He counts on volume and pressure as total package & when your face starts running into frequent fists you encounter problems. Being timed and countered with left hooks resulting in nose dives to the canvas as an example.

Duran who had gone prior 15 with Hagler will never be confused with Williams. And he had more to fall back on as far as skill. Khan...um ok

Yes but you'd have to be expecting him to leave himself as badly wide open as that.

If the blueprint is just waiting on that shot to come a lot of people are going to be unsuccessful with that. If you want a fight for a blueprint look at the first Quintana fight.

But it's not like it really worked the second time around.

There is no real "formula" for beating Williams, it's all about taking what he gives you. And what he gave Martinez was all Martinez needed to knock him out. But it was far from the blueprint to beating Williams.

For fans sake I hope he can keep swinging....but he tried to Quintana Martinez in the first round Sat and a bigger,sharper, calmer boxer exploited his gaps badly. It was not a fluke shot but more so culmination against top tier.

[zhubin]

While i think Williams can still be a force...it will be interesting to see how he comes back from such a brutal knockout. When you get KOed like that, it can leave lingering effects not only physically but also mentally. He has the physical tools to be a much more effective boxer. He doesn't need to rely on high work rate. If he can utilize his length and jab better...he actually will be a more daunting fighter.

[TheMacMagician]

I gotta love Williams man. But I'm gonna go all out and say he'll be haunted by that KO for a long time. Especially after Kellerman had him watch the slow mo live on air. What did he expect Paul to say.

I hope he bounces back with a couple of easy wins, maybe the first win could be against Max Kellerman.

Anyone would be cagey in a comeback after a knockout like that.

[Rantcatrat]

Well he could reinvent himself and start using his height and reach to his advantage, jab the crap out of his opponent .If he fought like this sure he wouldn't be as exciting but his chin wouldn't get tested as often as it does. I think his balls are just to big for his own good though and eventually in every fight will resort to just slugging it out, so hopefully his chin is just dented and not shattered.

I gotta love Williams man. But I'm gonna go all out and say he'll be haunted by that KO for a long time. Especially after Kellerman had him watch the slow mo live on air. What did he expect Paul to say.

I hope he bounces back with a couple of easy wins, maybe the first win could be against Max Kellerman.

Anyone would be cagey in a comeback after a knockout like that.

It was a big knockout, but Williams has more in him.

[X]

There is no question that he is not world class.

He got caught by a bomb, it happens ...... he went out of there like a real fighter.

At least he landed more than one punch in the whole fight, and came to win.