Manny Steward: Public won't buy Mosley-Pac fight

[ono]

Haye vs Harrison sold. This fight will sell.

[Gandalf]

Haye vs Harrison sold. This fight will sell.

Exactly.

The general public are sheep, you can sell them anything. The X-factor, Harrison-Haye, Hitler, loss of personal freedoms in the name of fighting terror. Mosley/Pac is an easy sell after all of that. Heck, if I was told I had to choose one, even I would go for Mosley/Pac. It's a shame that it would have taken another year of poor Mosley performances to get us this far, but I would expect nothing less from that crook Arum and that opportunist Roach.

[fan johnny]

I've said this before, The P4P rankings are a big factor. Just look at the two biggest draws in boxing. PFB and PAC. Why because common folk don't know who the champions are as they are ranked in the multiple sanctioning bodies.

People turnout to watch the playoffs, the Superbowl and the World cup. When the champ is fighting, people show up. In this boxing era, the reigning "Heavyweight Champion of the World is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao" i.e. people understand the Champion on top of the P4P list.

[milmascaras1]

fan johnny,

since when was the p4p list a world title? can you enlighten me on that?

[fan johnny]

fan johnny,

since when was the p4p list a world title? can you enlighten me on that?

Who said that is was? The context I use is a metaphor. Of course P4P ranking are purely hypothetical. Yes it was originally just a discussion game that has been evolving into something else. However, to be called P4P king has tangible value.

Ricky Hatton and Shane Mosley covet it. Floyd envy's Pacquiao's beloved popularity. Although Pacquiao exhibits humility, he is basking in it. ("My accomplishments compared to him", "facial gesture") Even Martinez and Williams want the recognition. The list goes on and on. It's no longer enough to be a unified champion, but the goal seems to be crowned the P4P king. With it come enormous popularity and recognition. Name branding and enforcements. Let us not forget multi-million dollar fights and so forth.

The joke is, the alphabet belts are like trinkets or tournament trophies that just collect dust. Writers, main stream media and the like all observe this from boxing fans and experts of the sport. (Many fans and experts truly believe the belts have lost their value.) Perhaps they take note of lack of respect given to many of the champions that obtain these belts as compared to those who are climbing the P4P lists. All the negative talk about the sanctioning bodies has a profound effect on the sport. The sport of boxing is evolving and the P4P rankings are playing a big role. So being #1 on the P4P list seems to have replaced the recognition that was once given to "The Heavyweight Champion of the World" i.e. "The Greatest Champion of them All".

This is my interpretation of what is happening in boxing and why I disagree with Stewart's opinion that people won't by a Mosley / Pacquiao fight. People will buy it because Shane Mosley is a very big name in boxing and Pacquiao is on the top of the list. It's a championship game. Not the eliminator.

[Dizaster]

I've said this before, The P4P rankings are a big factor. Just look at the two biggest draws in boxing. PFB and PAC. Why because common folk don't know who the champions are as they are ranked in the multiple sanctioning bodies.

People turnout to watch the playoffs, the Superbowl and the World cup. When the champ is fighting, people show up. In this boxing era, the reigning "Heavyweight Champion of the World is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao" i.e. people understand the Champion on top of the P4P list.

Never heard it put that way, but it perfectly describes the play of things in boxing right now... And people will pay to see the guys who are at the top of their sport.. .mostly regardless of who they are against....

And should have just ignored milmascaras1. He's just going through his usual morning routine..

1. Toast
2. Coffee
3. Shower
4. Scan saddo's for Pac threads. *
5. Open Pac thread and find a post to start argument with...

* If for step (4) no Pac thread, go into any other random thread and bring Pac up, then start arguement with anyone who responds.

[Ant Live]

Before Floyd beat Shane, I thought Shane would have been the one to beat Manny.
Now . . .
I'm beting on Mosley!!!
Don't pay for it if you don't want to. I'll give play by play, round by round!!!

[Hornfinger]

Mayweather ruined Mosley. Shane litterally aged with each round.

He just drew with Sergio Mora who is shit.

I think Pacquiao would beat him fairly easily and probably stop him. He's damaged goods, so pac will probably fight him.

[Ant Live]

Mayweather ruined Mosley. Shane litterally aged with each round.

He just drew with Sergio Mora who is shit.

I think Pacquiao would beat him fairly easily and probably stop him. He's damaged goods, so pac will probably fight him.

Shae lose to a great boxer in Floyd. A fighter that made the adjustments within the round that he almost got KO'ed. That don't say, he's washed!!! Manny is not a pocket fighter like Mayweather. Manny will pulled back unlike Mayweather pushing threw.

Mosley by KO 10 over Pacman