Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

It is insane to ask Marquez to jump two weight divisions at 37. If Pacquiao gets the win then he also gets no credit. Mayweather got no credit for doing this to Marquez and neither should Manny. The only way to make it half way fair is to have Pac come down to 140 and ask Marquez to make the leap to 140. Otherwise we are heading into Pac/DLH territory where most of us thought it was a mismatch and Marquez at this stage in his career, as good as he is, is unlikely to make that transition, more so with us all having seen the Mayweather fight.

sounds fair. but you and i undestand that Juan and Manny are actually the same "size" Pac's attributes just enables him to be more effective at a higher weight.

but againts each other nobody is getting blown away.

Pac has WBO Welterweight title, It just logical and fair that he defend it right?

Legacy wise fighting at catchwegiht of 141 for the welterweight title is a sore in Pac's CV

how about a straight up welterweight fight because Pac doesnt even come close to 147 anyways? IF JMM thinks that coming in at 135 benefits him then do it. Pac came in at 144 for a 150 fight.

Size doesnt matter between these 2 Miles. And i cant really absorb your concern about JMM fighting at a heavier weight when JMM can come in at his best form anyways. same as pac even if its a lot lighter than the contracted weight.
If size doesn't matter, then why not have Manny at the very least come down to 140? Even that might be a weight jump too far for a 37 year old Marquez. Manny has gone up in weight and somehow has carried this enormous power. He isn't just winning fights, but is breaking orbital bones. He didn't use to carry this kind of clout. He was heavy handed, but not like this. None of the opponents at smaller weights were getting busted up in this way. To be honest, I worry that Marquez might get get blown away if the fight is at WW. Manny has had time to grow into the weight and has stayed busy at the weight. Marquez has tried it once and looked poor, though it was against Mayweather.

Manny has all the advantages and having it at WW is simply not a fair fight. We criticised Mayweather for it and yet we are calling for Manny to be given a free pass for it? At the very least it should go to 140, so that Marquez is at least fighting somewhere near his own weight. Otherwise, it is a fight that I have a very hard time justifiying.